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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubbles10 View Post
    Did you read this bit of the article?



    Does this sound like they are advocating the language used by the speaker?
    Yes, I did. And no, I don't care. Frankly this is NOT the first experience of demonizing formula I've heard of from the ABA and there's a certain point where tolerance becomes skepticism.
    Of COURSE they launched an investigation. You tell me, do you think they'd last long if they didn't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eko View Post
    Yes, I did. And no, I don't care. Frankly this is NOT the first experience of demonizing formula I've heard of from the ABA and there's a certain point where tolerance becomes skepticism.
    Of COURSE they launched an investigation. You tell me, do you think they'd last long if they didn't?
    So your comments have nothing to do with the article, just your belief that the ABA don't like formula?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubbles10 View Post
    So your comments have nothing to do with the article, just your belief that the ABA don't like formula?
    *shakes head*
    What's your problem with me not feeling like the ABA is of any use to me? How does it affect you?
    I had a bad experience with them. This article just makes me even less comfortable with the group. I don't have to justify that to a stranger.

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    Default not so helpful advice from the ABA - all threads merged

    It's the Australian BREASTFEEDING Association. Of course they are going to promote breastfeeding over formula. I don't believe they demonise formula. They do speak of the risks of using formula, but it's imperative that they do this, for the purposes of education and awareness, particularly in this day and age where we are seeing a sharp incline in formula feeding. I have learnt on bubhub that some people are very sensitive to hearing about those risks.

    More and more people believe that the two methods of feeding are equal in nutrition, but at the end of the day, formula is inferior to breastmilk - this isn't surprising, it is a biological recipe which has been fine tuned over millions of years to be the perfect food source for human babies. The ABA's job is to promote that. They are doing a great job at this, so hopefully these comments from ONE person don't affect their services too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tainted View Post
    I think there are better people to get the message out. Everyone knows that BF is the best way to feed a baby, but I don't think telling people who couldn't physically feed their child for a real reason that their actions are comparable with giving their child AIDS.
    Better people than who? The ABA is the leading source of breastfeeding information and support in Australia. The information that the Organisation provides is evidence based, and updated where necessary. THere is no-one else who provides the advocacy and support to mothers in Australia.

    It sounds like the counsellor in this article has gone outside the boundaries of the ABA. An individual, not the Organisation.

    Just to clarify, based on the information in the article article she did not say that the giving a baby formula was like giving a baby AIDS. She compared the mechanism of AIDS with the effects of formula. They are different things. It is not something i would even think of, and i wouldn't use a comparison of AIDS with anything due to the emotional response that people have even to the word AIDS, and especially in a public forum because you don't know the background of the people that you are talking to. The message would get lost (as is shown here) by the emotion.

    I am not defending the speaker, i don't understand why she has chosen that way to present her information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubbles10 View Post
    Better people than who? The ABA is the leading source of breastfeeding information and support in Australia. The information that the Organisation provides is evidence based, and updated where necessary. THere is no-one else who provides the advocacy and support to mothers in Australia.

    It sounds like the counsellor in this article has gone outside the boundaries of the ABA. An individual, not the Organisation.

    Just to clarify, based on the information in the article article she did not say that the giving a baby formula was like giving a baby AIDS. She compared the mechanism of AIDS with the effects of formula. They are different things. It is not something i would even think of, and i wouldn't use a comparison of AIDS with anything due to the emotional response that people have even to the word AIDS, and especially in a public forum because you don't know the background of the people that you are talking to. The message would get lost (as is shown here) by the emotion.

    I am not defending the speaker, i don't understand why she has chosen that way to present her information.
    Formula feeding is not comparable to Aids in any way, shape or form.
    Taking away the emotional aspect the mechanism is NOT the same.

    Giving parents information is great. Scraring them to death with false information is not ok.

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    Default Re: not so helpful advice from the ABA - all threads merged

    Saying that formula is like aids is the STUPIDEST, most RIDICULOUS comment i have seen so far relating to formula and i have seen a few,

    There are Risks With every thing we eat / do,

    We still do it.

    There is a VERY small *chance* the can of formula may be contaminated with something, similar to the chance the jared foods may be contaminated ... people do not go around saying they are like aids!

    Formula does not destroy the immune system!

    For the record i breast feed so i am not saying the above to defend my 'choice' or lessen my 'guilt' (which is what is usually said once someone is negative about the negativity surrounding formula)

    I am just sick to death of people attacking others for making a LEGAL and govt deemed SAFE choice for their babies,

    This woman needs her head read!
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    Insane comments that shows a complete lack of empathy and understanding of what it's like to not be able to successfully bf. Good grief, how did this woman get so far as an LC with these sorts of beliefs.

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    Default not so helpful advice from the ABA - all threads merged

    Quote Originally Posted by Janesmum123 View Post
    Formula feeding is not comparable to Aids in any way, shape or form.
    Taking away the emotional aspect the mechanism is NOT the same.
    ^^ this. Disgusting to even imply that the mechanisms are the same.

    Aids destroys the immune system - formula does not although it does not provide as many antibodies as BF.

    As someone who tried and failed to BF, articles like this are really heartbreaking.

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    Default not so helpful advice from the ABA - all threads merged

    While I agree these comments are disgusting, the ABA are a wonderful organization that obviously don't condone the comments that were made. They are usually a massive support to breastfeeding mothers. What a stupid woman - I am finding it really hard to believe that she would say such a stupid thing. There is enough pressure on new mums without adding ridiculous comments like this.


 

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