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    Default Re: Whats and independant public school?

    Who hires the principal? The department?

    Sounds like they have the potential to be the best or worst of public and private.

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    Our school is an IPS. It's brilliant. From a day to day point of view as a parent it's probably no different but for the following reasons I am really happy with the change. The principal does control the budget but there is a school board as well who is also involved but ultimately it is the principal who has the final say. But not in isolation. Our teachers are employed directly by the school so rather than staying on contracts endlessly and then finally being sent somewhere else the great teachers can be employed more quickly. We also have more teachers who teach specialist subjects. DD1 is in year 1 and has an art teacher, a music teacher, a sports teacher and a computer teacher, just to name a few. It's always the same people week after week, and she loves that she's actually being taught by people with a passion for that area.

    Relief teachers are also employed by the school, so eg for her class she has the same relief teacher every time her teacher is ill or has to go to a work shop.

    If the principal is a disaster I can see how it wouldn't be so great.

    We still pay the voluntary contribution, and have to fund raise extensively as there is no extra money for things such as computers. It's just who gets to say how the money is spent is more directly a part of the school, rather than a bureaucrat.
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    Default Whats and independant public school?

    The problem is though, if it is not run well the school can come into huge problems. For example, if they choose to spend $20 000 on a new hall (something a non-independent school would have to usually get approval for), they have basically no
    Money left and the government won't cough up any more... Leaving the school in financial peril. This is of course if there's poor management.

    I don't think there is a huge difference otherwise. Oh, and it also gives the principal more power to exclude kids from the school more easily

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    Quote Originally Posted by squirrelex View Post

    Oh, and it also gives the principal more power to exclude kids from the school more easily
    I wasn't aware of that. how? My understanding of the law in WA as it currently stands is that if you are "within zone" the school must accept you. It's the law. If you're out of zone it might be different. I know our school is bursting and getting demountables to accommodate the extra kids it has to take.

    I should add though that DD's school became an IPS during our first year there, so apart from the direct employment of teachers and relief teachers it might be very similar to other public schools but I haven't experienced other public schools so can't comment. It's our local school and we have to go to our local school (all the public schools in our area are full so won't take out of boundary enrolments) so we don't really have much choice about it.
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    Default Whats and independant public school?

    I guess because like being able to hire staff they also have more control over which students they allow. As far as I know (not 100% sure) they still have to take catchment area kids, but it is a far less tedious process to exclude students (in comparison to current system) if you independently run yourself. I'm speaking from a high school perspective, but I would assume primary would be similar?

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    Yes I'm primary. And yes in WA anyway they still must take catchment kids. We have so many primary schools where we live but they are all small and bursting with catchment kids. I agree though with the sentiment that it might be possible, but haven't heard of it happening I guess.


 

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