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    Default Wdyt? Sex with sleeping woman not rape? *trigger warning*

    Quote Originally Posted by Rbottom View Post
    I am not being disrespectful to women who have been raped. I'm saying that this particular woman invited an unknown stranger into HER BED! She had consensual sex with him and then instead of using common sense for what ever reason she allowed him to stay over. I'm not saying what he did was right by any means, but a simple 'Hey dude, thats not on' would have been adequate. She, IMO is being an opportunist due to who he is.... or the people behind her are...
    Yes, you are being disrespectful actually - you are insinuating that many women who have been raped have made it up. I have been sexually assaulted and I am highly offended. Who do you think you are?

    Are you even reading my posts? Allowing a man to stay over doesn't give him free reign of the vagina all night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rbottom View Post
    Well I'm sorry, but whatis a man who you met only a few hours before hand doing in your bed in the first place? If you didnt want to have sex with him, or give him the idea that sex was on the cards, dont invite him into YOUR bed.

    Given if it was a friend who you thought you trusted it would, IMO be considered rape, but a stranger who your hardly know.....
    A persons morals, that don't line up with yours, are not a crime. Rape is a crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Witwicky View Post
    Of course you are entitled to your opinion, just as I am entitled to challenge it. The disclaimer is unnecessary.

    Since when does staying in someone's bed entitle a person to repeatedly have sex with them? That's really ridiculous. She didn't WANT sex on that occasion. The fact that they had sex prior is absolutely no indication of her consent. If that was the case, we could throw all cases of marital rape out the window.

    I find it revolting that you are being so disrespectful towards women who have been raped.
    Did she tell him to stop?
    She proudly went to the net to brag about how awesome it was.
    Then continued to send him text msgs wanting to see him again.
    She had no issue with what happened until he didn't want to see her again.
    How do you know what conversations they had? How do you know what they told each other? You where not there.
    Its speculation.

    Both women where so traumatised by the events that they needed to contact a newspaper to find out exactly how much damage they could cause.

    There is no way in hell I will ever believe these women where raped and it's an absolute disgrace to actual rape victims.

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    Default Wdyt? Sex with sleeping woman not rape? *trigger warning*

    Quote Originally Posted by NancyBlackett View Post
    Who actually wants to have sex with someone who is asleep??
    Weirdos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Witwicky View Post
    Yes, you are being disrespectful actually - you are insinuating that mang women who have been raped have made it up. I have been sexually assaulted and I am highly offended. Who do you think you are?

    Are you even reading my posts? Allowing a man to stay over doesn't give him free reign of the vagina all night.
    I'm sorry for what happened to you but accusing a man of rape based on a newspaper article is not right either.

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    Sex with a person who is asleep, and therefore unable to consent to sex, is rape. Plain and simple. No ifs, ands or buts.

    Rape is absolutely not a term that is thrown around too much these days. Only a few short years ago a man was able to have sex with his wife, even if she screamed at him to stop, that's now called marital rape.

    Just because you marry someone, doesn't mean you get sole rights to their body to do with as you please at time of the day or night. Same goes for one night stands.

    Just because you agree to have sex with someone on ONE occasion, and even if they spend the night because you've fallen asleep or agreed it was okay to stay until morning, does NOT mean that it is okay to engage in a sexual act again, without consent for THAT occasion.

    I cannot believe that there is someone out there that thinks that that would ever be okay! That's just like saying a woman shouldn't wear a low cut top/short skirt because it means she's "asking for it".

    So ashamed of some responses in here, from other WOMEN

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janesmum123 View Post
    Did she tell him to stop?
    She proudly went to the net to brag about how awesome it was.
    Then continued to send him text msgs wanting to see him again.
    She had no issue with what happened until he didn't want to see her again.
    How do you know what conversations they had? How do you know what they told each other? You where not there.
    Its speculation.

    Both women where so traumatised by the events that they needed to contact a newspaper to find out exactly how much damage they could cause.

    There is no way in hell I will ever believe these women where raped and it's an absolute disgrace to actual rape victims.
    This *might* be the case in this one instance - however until it's tested in a court of law and while the accused, in this case, is doing all he can to avoid a court of law HIS actions are equally questionable. I despise victim blaming and the tone of this thread so far is victim blaming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janesmum123 View Post
    Did she tell him to stop?
    She proudly went to the net to brag about how awesome it was.
    Then continued to send him text msgs wanting to see him again.
    She had no issue with what happened until he didn't want to see her again.
    How do you know what conversations they had? How do you know what they told each other? You where not there.
    Its speculation.

    Both women where so traumatised by the events that they needed to contact a newspaper to find out exactly how much damage they could cause.

    There is no way in hell I will ever believe these women where raped and it's an absolute disgrace to actual rape victims.
    Exactly! I am talking about THIS SITUATION! This woman is obviously after all she can get from the famous man who didnt want more than a one night stand with her.

    I am not being disrespectful to all rape victims or victim blaming I am saying that in this instance NO I dont consider it rape. I do, however, wonder about how many times the same thing has happened to other men, who thinking the entire thing was a one night stand then get slapped with a rape case because they didnt call the woman back. There are some very bitter unstable people out there in the big wide world who would pull stuff like that to suit their own ends. They are disrespectful to rape victims, not me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Witwicky View Post
    Yes, you are being disrespectful actually - you are insinuating that many women who have been raped have made it up. I have been sexually assaulted and I am highly offended. Who do you think you are?

    Are you even reading my posts? Allowing a man to stay over doesn't give him free reign of the vagina all night.

    I'm being disrespectful to you because I think the women in this case are full of it?? OK didnt know you were so closely involved in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkingClassMum View Post
    This *might* be the case in this one instance - however until it's tested in a court of law and while the accused, in this case, is doing all he can to avoid a court of law HIS actions are equally questionable. I despise victim blaming and the tone of this thread so far is victim blaming.
    This is a bad example then.
    It should be focusing on what the man said rather then this actual case.

    Life is not black and white. If it was then I must have been raped (I was not)

    No one in their right mind would go to Sweden to face those charges.

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