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    Default Wdyt? Sex with sleeping woman not rape? *trigger warning*

    Quote Originally Posted by Rbottom View Post
    Oh yeah. That exactly! If you dont want it, dont invite a man to stay in your bed. If you do wake up and he is penetrating you and you dont like it, tell him to stop, get out of the bed or ask him to leave. But calling rape... seriously.

    I believe the word Rape is thrown around all too often to suit covering up for bad decisions these days.

    Sorry if my opinion doesnt fit in with everyone else's, but I have every right to it.
    So I have someone in my bed and they start penetrating me and I say stop, get out, leave and he DOESN'T - what is that?

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    Default Wdyt? Sex with sleeping woman not rape? *trigger warning*

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    Both!
    Ok fair enough. It's obviously ok in your relationship.

    I'd object to waking up to DH going for it already. Then again I assume I'd wake up well before then and make my willingness known - either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NancyBlackett View Post
    So I have someone in my bed and they start penetrating me and I say stop, get out, leave and he DOESN'T - what is that?

    Well I'm sorry, but whatis a man who you met only a few hours before hand doing in your bed in the first place? If you didnt want to have sex with him, or give him the idea that sex was on the cards, dont invite him into YOUR bed.

    Given if it was a friend who you thought you trusted it would, IMO be considered rape, but a stranger who your hardly know.....

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    Default Wdyt? Sex with sleeping woman not rape? *trigger warning*

    Quote Originally Posted by Rbottom View Post
    Oh yeah. That exactly! If you dont want it, dont invite a man to stay in your bed. If you do wake up and he is penetrating you and you dont like it, tell him to stop, get out of the bed or ask him to leave. But calling rape... seriously.

    I believe the word Rape is thrown around all too often to suit covering up for bad decisions these days.

    Sorry if my opinion doesnt fit in with everyone else's, but I have every right to it.
    Of course you are entitled to your opinion, just as I am entitled to challenge it. The disclaimer is unnecessary.

    Since when does staying in someone's bed entitle a person to repeatedly have sex with them? That's really ridiculous. She didn't WANT sex on that occasion. The fact that they had sex prior is absolutely no indication of her consent. If that was the case, we could throw all cases of marital rape out the window.

    I find it revolting that you are being so disrespectful towards women who have been raped.

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    Default Wdyt? Sex with sleeping woman not rape? *trigger warning*

    That is absolutely rape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rbottom View Post
    Oh yeah. That exactly! If you dont want it, dont invite a man to stay in your bed. If you do wake up and he is penetrating you and you dont like it, tell him to stop, get out of the bed or ask him to leave. But calling rape... seriously.

    I believe the word Rape is thrown around all too often to suit covering up for bad decisions these days.

    Sorry if my opinion doesnt fit in with everyone else's, but I have every right to it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rbottom View Post
    Well I'm sorry, but whatis a man who you met only a few hours before hand doing in your bed in the first place? If you didnt want to have sex with him, or give him the idea that sex was on the cards, dont invite him into YOUR bed.

    Given if it was a friend who you thought you trusted it would, IMO be considered rape, but a stranger who your hardly know.....
    Oh thank you for clearing up my sexual assault experience for me. Oh wait, not sexual assault, just a 'bad decision'.

    Your opinion is horrendously offensive to women who have suffered sexual assault. But I am getting that you just don't give a cr*p.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Witwicky View Post
    Of course you are entitled to your opinion, just as I am entitled to challenge it. The disclaimer is unnecessary.

    Since when does staying in someone's bed entitle a person to repeatedly have sex with them? That's really ridiculous. She didn't WANT sex on that occasion. The fact that they had sex prior is absolutely no indication of her consent. If that was the case, we could throw all cases of marital rape out the window.

    I find it revolting that you are being so disrespectful towards women who have been raped.

    I am not being disrespectful to women who have been raped. I'm saying that this particular woman invited an unknown stranger into HER BED! She had consensual sex with him and then instead of using common sense for what ever reason she allowed him to stay over. I'm not saying what he did was right by any means, but a simple 'Hey dude, thats not on' would have been adequate. She, IMO is being an opportunist due to who he is.... or the people behind her are...

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    Default Wdyt? Sex with sleeping woman not rape? *trigger warning*

    Quote Originally Posted by Rbottom View Post
    Well I'm sorry, but whatis a man who you met only a few hours before hand doing in your bed in the first place? If you didnt want to have sex with him, or give him the idea that sex was on the cards, dont invite him into YOUR bed.

    Given if it was a friend who you thought you trusted it would, IMO be considered rape, but a stranger who your hardly know.....
    Oh.

    I get it. It's only rape if you knew them
    already and they ignore your wishes.

    If you only just met them it's not rape because how on earth could they know you really mean it when you say no.

    Or alternatively you're a slapper and shouldn't have a man in your bed. So suffer the consequences.

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    Default Wdyt? Sex with sleeping woman not rape? *trigger warning*

    Quote Originally Posted by Rbottom View Post
    Well I'm sorry, but whatis a man who you met only a few hours before hand doing in your bed in the first place? If you didnt want to have sex with him, or give him the idea that sex was on the cards, dont invite him into YOUR bed.

    Given if it was a friend who you thought you trusted it would, IMO be considered rape, but a stranger who your hardly know.....
    Do you have some sort of vendetta against women who have casual sex?

    Last time I checked the rape laws applied to all types: casual sex partners, husbands/wives, gay/straight....

    Just because someone has some degree of culpability according to yoy (doesn't live up to your morals) it doesn't mean they can be raped. Thats like me saying you wore a skirt that was a tad short so you deserves to be raped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rbottom View Post
    I'm sorry, but she had just met the man, took him home, shagged him, and allowed him to sleep in her bed. If she didn't want anymore action, or to give him the idea that anymore action was acceptable she should have asked him to leave after the first session.

    That is IF and its a BIG if, any of this happened in the first place.
    Where to start... Sex without consent is rape. Un-consented sex after consensual sex is rape, continuing sex after consent is withdrawn is rape, continuing sex after a person says no is rape. Sex with a sleeping person is rape, sex with a comatose person is rape, sex with an underaged person, consensual or not, is rape.

    The woman broke no law in letting a man sleep in her bed, he broke the law when he raped her. The woman broke no law when she had consensual a few hours earlier, he broke the law when he raped her, the woman broke no law taking a man she's just met home, he broke the law when he raped her.

    Her morals are not up for judgment and victim blaming is a disgusting attitude.

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