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    Vetttc,
    hun, I feel your pain and understand your fear and frustration.
    It took me along time and much heartache (not to mention $) to finally graduate from this thread. I wanted to pop by to wish you all the best. It took me 22 cycles if ART to become a mum. I feel very protective of you all in this thread and hope you all get you'd dreams answered really soon.

    Lovebug, and other long termers, my thoughts over Christmas and New Years were of you all as they often are. Stay strong xx

    Love, hugs and support to all xx

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    Hi All,
    Not sure if I qualify for this thread, but sometimes it sure does feel like it.
    I have endured three full stim cycles and one FET in the past eight months.
    For someone which the experts said would have no trouble conceiving, it sure does not feel too good at the moment.
    I am 33 and DH is 41. Nothing wrong with me apparently, DH had a vasectomy 13 years ago.
    We managed to get pregnant on our most recent cycle, but miscarried at 6 weeks over Christmas.
    Now am waiting to speak with my FS who is due back tomorrow and I have an appointment next week.
    Is there anything that you think I should be asking? I am planning on demanding lots of tests to try and get some answers.
    So far the only tests they have done is a D&C and Lap just prior to my last cycle which showed by pelvis was "pristine" - FS's words.
    I seem to be a not great responder - with our last cycle the most eggs achieved at 18, although they transferred two 5day blasts (graded B-C grade) I have only ever managed one frosty.
    This last cycle I was on 375 gonal F. I have always done long down reg cycles.
    Anyway, sorry for the ramble. Good luck to you all

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    Hi Appy, sorry you are here but nice to have you to chat to!
    18 eggs is a lot - my FS always says anything more than 12-14 eggs and you could be compromising on egg quality, (plus you are at higher risk of OHSS), and anything less than 4 is not worth proceeding to egg pick up, so I wouldn't have called you a poor responder with 18 eggs??? Who called you a poor responder?
    Also consider trying a short cycle - I responded with half the number of eggs on my one long down reg cycle and always respond better with short cycles, you never know until you try, plus that lucrin is horrible stuff it sent me batty!

    How is your partner's sperm collected? Was his vasectomy reversed and so his sample is ejaculated or is it biopsy collected? If his semen is naturally ejaculated then request a DNA fragmentation test on his semen.

    Also you should both have a karyotype blood test done to check for deletions or insertions in your DNA. Also get tested to see if you are carrying the gene for cystic fibrosis - if you are both carriers you need to know.

    Those are just a few tests I can think of which we had done - also you could have your uterus biopsied for natural killer cells, and have the blood clotting disorder blood tests done too to see if your uterus is clotting around the embryo and this can be treated with clexane injections, prednisolone, asprin etc.
    I am so sorry for your pregnancy loss.
    Was an analysis done on your baby to see if a cause could be identified? Sometimes this helps them understand what went wrong.
    I wish you a healthy full term pregnancy in 2013!
    xoxo

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    Hi Marzi thanks so much for your support it means a lot ! So glad you became a mum it gives us all hope to keep trying.

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    Sorry for multiple posts will try to combine the next ones - just wanted to say thanks to Loveabug as well for your welcome and support where are you up to with your cycles?

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    Hi vetttc
    Thanks for all the info.
    I should clarify that my first full stim (at 150 gonal) retrieved 8 eggs of which 6 were mature and 4 made day 5. One was transferred and no others were viable for freezing.
    Stim 2 ended with 10 eggs 5 mature 2 fertilised with one transferred and the other frozen. I was on 262.5 gonal.
    My last full stim I was on 350 gonal and on a longer stim (starting two days earlier and collection was a day later than previously). They collected 18 eggs, 15 mature, 9 fertilised, two transferred and remaining 6 blasts were no good to freeze.
    I was also on 4mg of melatonin leading up to the egg collection to try and improve egg quality.
    Seems while I can produce eggs not many are mature. Although the scan prior to collection always seems to show more follicles than what's retrieved.
    I will ask about a short cycle as well.
    We never attempted a vasectomy reversal as for the length of time it's been (13 to 14 years) they didn't believe it would be worthwhile.
    Our first stim cycle we did icsi with fresh biopsy. Second cycle was frozen, although they said the motility wasn't great. Third cycle we went fresh again and chose not to freeze.
    I will also ask about those tests.
    I am going to call FS tomorrow and speak with him re the miscarriage as I haven't spoken to them since it happened.
    I had a big bleed on Christmas Eve and had a blood test done which showed ok hcg levels of 4160. Went for scan on the Friday and the lady was useless. All that could be seen was something about 4 weeks but she thought it might have been a cyst. A blood test on Saturday showed hcg had dropped to 125. I stopped my progesterone on Saturdays and began bleeding on Sunday but so far (bleeding has stopped) no clots etc have passed (sorry for tmi). So sorry again for the long post but will be questioning FS about that tomorrow as well.

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    You poor thing what a horrible ordeal to go through after already enduring all those Ivf cycles ! They can only test foetal tissue removed by a D & c as far as I know so you will prob never know why your little angel didn't make it. Hard when your DP must go through biopsy each time too - ouch;(
    Hope you get a solid plan for moving forward from your FS. Keep us posted and hang in there!

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    April I have everything crossed for you tomorrow and those 3 little embies keep growing. Stay positive sweets miracles happen and it's definitely turn.

    Vetttc I am 6wks 4d pregnant we are so very excited. My next goal is to make it to the scan on the 15th. It's been awhile since I made this milestone
    Last edited by Loveabug; 04-01-2013 at 14:43.

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    Hi April thanks for the welcome
    sorry your cycle has not gone to plan - wishing you 3 very strong embies - they say it only takes one maybe your one is in the dish right now !

    loveabug congrats on making it this far sounds like this one is a sticky one crossing my fingers for your scan.

    AFM my EPU is booked for 10am on Monday. Hopefully all of my 8 follicles have good mature eggs in them and they all fertilise! Will keep you posted.

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    Hello to all the new ladies in the thread, you will find these girls a great source of support and knowledge.

    Firstly, a big congratulations to Lovebug woo hoo! Good luck for the next mile stone.

    Vetttc - Welcome to the thread! I know your pain regarding pregnancy announcements, being over lapped and Facebook. I reached the staged early last year where I deleted my Facebook as I couldn't handle another pregnancy announcement or picture. Having finally got pregnant after 4.5 years I try to be as respectful as I can to those fighting the infertility fight. I do have a Facebook now but I did not announce my pregnancy on it, nor do I post pictures. I also decided not to have a baby shower. I have nothing against people who want to have one, but with so many people experiencing infertility and miscarriage, and it being such a taboo subject that is often hidden I do not want to put anyone that may have had a recent loss through a baby shower.
    In regards to donor sperm/eggs I guess I was lucky as I never had a burning desire to have a genetic child. I can empathise where you are coming from and the sense of loss donation may bring, but can only say from my own experience that it has been so positive and I wish I had of done it sooner and I can't wait to meet my little man. Good luck for Monday.

    Appy - Welcome too! I also hear your story. Having been diagnosed with unexplained infertility for the first three years and told everything physically about me was great and that the grading of my embryo's was A+ - it was kind of frustrating. But here's what I learned - The grading of the embryo's is useless, it tells nothing - it is based on how they look which means very little really. Secondly, the fact that you get so many eggs (like me) but few frosties (like me) I would be asking your fertility specialist about the possibility of CGH testing to determine if the embryo's are chromosomally normal. There is also a procedure called IVM which takes immature eggs and matures them in the lab. It is desgined to reduce the number of eggs retrieved but improve the quality of the eggs. Unfortunately, egg quality is one thing they can't test for. The fact that you got pregnant is a great sign. If you get a CGH tested embryo that is good your chances of getting pregnant go up.

    April - I really really hope that you get a transfer. I will have everything crossed.


 

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