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    Ps- I did want to point out - and I have said this before, Chickenpox vax, I can kind of see why people don't want their kids to get it. It isn't really one of the scary diseases. I get it.

    But measles, whooping cough etc - these are scary diseases. Really scary. I just don't get why you would risk those. Not just for your own kids - but for everyone.

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    Default Here we go, measles outbreak in Campbeltown and all the children involved were not fu

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    I knew there was a hypothesis about it, but I didn't realise that our government were wondering what they were going to do about it in the future, I have been looking since you posted that and can find nothing that says anything about our governments concern for future shingles outbreaks. I did find a lot from overseas, and one study suggested that they vaccinate the elderly at the same time as the children, so more vaxxes, not less.
    Vaxxing CANNOT stop shingles. Shingles is like a second round of the virus - you can't get shingle sunless you've been vac'd or had CPV. The virus lays dormant in the nerve endings. Shingles is a flare up of the virus. My sister was temporarily blinded for a week with ulcertated shingles in her eyes.

    So vacc'ng would in effect INCREASE the incidences of shingles.

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    Default Here we go, measles outbreak in Campbeltown and all the children involved were not fu

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    HOw is it so many? Severe vax reactions are 1 in 1 million, how can that possible equate to "so many"???
    See, this is where I start questioning the "statistics".

    The reactions that are PROVEN to be vaccine related are 1 in 1 million, but what about all those that have fallen sick directly after vaccinations yet have been told its not because of the vaccine?

    I think the statistics are probably far more than 1 in 1 million.

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    Default Here we go, measles outbreak in Campbeltown and all the children involved were not fu

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    Default Here we go, measles outbreak in Campbeltown and all the children involved were not fu

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    Sure. Apple or orange?

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    Yes, I know - which is why it is odd that someone who is saying that it will increase shingles is saying elderly should be vaxxed! That is the point, I would not take medical advice from someone who said that!

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    Vaxxing CANNOT stop shingles. Shingles is like a second round of the virus - you can't get shingle sunless you've been vac'd or had CPV. The virus lays dormant in the nerve endings. Shingles is a flare up of the virus. My sister was temporarily blinded for a week with ulcertated shingles in her eyes.

    So vacc'ng would in effect INCREASE the incidences of shingles.

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    That is speculation though. I have heard people saying he was a healthy child and then 6 months after the vax he got sick. I am not saying it isn't the reason -but that seems highly unlikely to me. I am also not denying that vaccine reactions happen, I know they do. But I am talking about severe reactions.

    And if they happen far more than one in one million how come I have never met or heard of anyone having one irl. Only on the internet. They can't be that common - otherwise we would all know someone who has been affected.

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    See, this is where I start questioning the "statistics".

    The reactions that are PROVEN to be vaccine related are 1 in 1 million, but what about all those that have fallen sick directly after vaccinations yet have been told its not because of the vaccine?

    I think the statistics are probably far more than 1 in 1 million.

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    I actually agree with you on this missie (for once) I would rather see some kids partly vaxxed than not vaxxed at all.

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    I just thought I would add- the reason why varicella or chicken pox has entered this discussion is because as of this year the vaccine for measles is no longer just measles, mumps and rubella. It is now MMRV Measles, Mumps, Rubella and Varicella- which I think is a bit absurd considering the amount of people who site concerns with using the triple live vaccine and base this on their decision not to have this vaccine.
    'Hmm the CO are increasing! The amount of people uptaking the MMR vaccine is low- lets add another live virus to the vaccine and see if that makes them take it up' seems a bit to me

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    Personally im not interested in the debate, I just hope that all the babies and children involved are ok and have no lasting damage and no fatalities.

    People first debate a long long way after in my mind

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