Because Missiemack said that between 10-20% of vaccinated people will get measles if exposed, where as I posted the link from the CDC that said vaccinated people are almost 100% covered (ver few) if they have both shots and about 95% won't get it if they have had just one of the shots. So we were trying to see which one was right.
It clearly states that ireland does not keep reliable or accurate records of immunisation and that misdiagnosis was big issue in this epidemic - in fact that was the major finding. Only 33% of the diagnosis were confirmed with testing. Further supported by an absence of antigens in 64% of cases when tested 2-4 weeks after notification.
So the stats in the article are merely to discuss the issues with testing, diagnosing, and low uptake of immunisation as opposed to reveal that 20% of a vaccinated population would get the disease?
Interesting read, maybe the poster didn't read the whole article or interpret it correctly - can happen.
Sorry if that upset you, I was genuinely just interested where it came from as I couldn't pick up where that conversation had started. At any rate it was a good article on the dangers of misdiagnosis and sub optimal levels of immunisation, that was why i was confused why it was there it didn't seem to fit the conversation.
Anyway - apologies if i offended you.
Last edited by Ulysses; 17-08-2012 at 11:22.
Yes, absolutely I get 2nd and 3rd opinions if they are warranted.
But in regards to vaccinations, these aren't 2nd, 3rd opinions, we are talking millions of medical professionals saying the same thing, that vaccination is safe, effective and is is the only reason why we don't have things like smallpox anymore.
I am not going to pick apart your reasons for not vaccinating. I realise that it won't change your mind or beliefs in anyway. But I am not going to change my mind either, I don't think that is a good enough reason. I do blame non vaxxers for the return of diseases. I'm not trying to make you feel bad (although I can see why some would feel bad) it is what it is. Scientifically it is proven that vax preventable diseases make a return when vax rates get lower.
We are seeing it right now, all over the world.
I'm not a "non vaxxer" so your opinion on the subject is not relevant to me. I'm not trying to change anyone's views - I think that's the difference between you and me on this subject.
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