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    Quote Originally Posted by Mum2Ruairi View Post
    'protest whinging' implies that babies are demanding to avoid their current situation.
    Until a baby is around 9 months old, they are unable to reason like this, that part of their brain is not yet developed. They have basic survival needs.

    something as important as feeding/sleeping? yeah, i try to do what i know for a fact is best for my little one.

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    I'm confused - if this is the way you feel, why would you read the book and then go ahead with trying out the methods...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    It's not so much training babies as much as giving parents tools to help their babies sleep. If babies were all perfect sleepers from day dot then why do sleep schools exist? Because parents don't have the tools and strategies up their sleeve to help their baby sleep (not their fault, parenting classes are crap).
    I can understand the need for sleep schools when parents are absolutely desperate, but ignoring your baby's cries as a newborn or even before the age of 6 months just because parents don't want their sleep interrupted is wrong. Even cc and CIO experts agree that 6 months is the minimum age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misschief View Post
    So how sure are you that you will stick with the book when bub actually arrives? Do you think you'll be strong enough to withstand hearing your newborn child crying out for his/her mum just because he/she needs you for a cuddle?
    Do not forget that your child has been with you 24/7 for 9 months and suddenly it gets ripped away and is expected to sleep through from day one, because mum can't handle the pressure.
    I'm keen to see how well the book will work for you once you actually have held your precious little bub in your arms.
    I'm NOT sure. Which is why i said we plan to take elements from it if they work for us. How could we be sure? We can't possibly know what we will and won't do yet as this is our first- so we are going in open minded. I read the book, and so far I haven't thrown it out, so we will see how we go. I have also read numerous other books, because I enjoy reading mostly, also because I don't think any book can be a one size fits all solution and we won't know what this little one (and DH and I!) will be like until it arrives.

    The main point of my post was to say how horrible it is to hear all of the judgement surrounding the book- when it has worked very well for many parents. Please don't make others feel bad for doing something that they are ok with and works FOR THEM.

    ETA- I do not expect my newborn to sleep through. I would like it to if it can- wouldnt everyone?- but wouldn't ever expect this from a baby in general, let alone a new one. Encouraging good sleep habits is something we would like to do but at this point I couldn't even tell you when/how etc etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Of what part of SOS exactly are you refering to? Not using a dummy? Putting bub to bed awake? Following routines? Using a comforter?

    There's plenty of research on parenting stuff but out there. And plenty of it isn't covered. Is every thing you do as a parent backed by research?
    Do you really need to ask which part?

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    I read her book and was interested in trying the routines. Lucky i posted on BH first to get other mums' opinion and then found out this video, in which TH lost all her credit



    If you wonder about the temperature of the room, look how she dressed herself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyla View Post
    I'm confused - if this is the way you feel, why would you read the book and then go ahead with trying out the methods...?
    I was upset that my son was grumpy possibly as a result of something I was doing wrong.

    I was tired and not thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Do you really need to ask which part?
    Yes. So many people have misconceptions, dont understand the specifics ... That's why I'd like the specifics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mum2Ruairi View Post
    I was upset that my son was grumpy possibly as a result of something I was doing wrong.

    I was tired and not thinking.
    It makes me wonder, if it had worked would you still be feeling so outraged?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    I can understand the need for sleep schools when parents are absolutely desperate, but ignoring your baby's cries as a newborn or even before the age of 6 months just because parents don't want their sleep interrupted is wrong. Even cc and CIO experts agree that 6 months is the minimum age.
    I understand the need for sleep schools. But if parenting classes were better and parents had enough tricks in their back pocket sleep school wouldn't be needed. I'm going to get shot for this but a majority of the time babies have sleep problems because of what the parents are/are not doing (yes myself included in the early days. Watching tv when giving bub the night feed.. Doh!).

    I don't ever recal reading in SOS that a babies cries should be ignored. SOS is not controlled crying, which I agree I wouldn't do before 6 months.

    So many misconceptions....

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    No, it's not controlled crying, it's cry it out, which I also mentioned in my post above.

    Sleep, like crawling, sitting, teething, walking, talking, eating are all milestones that each baby reaches differently and at varying ages.Do you force your child to stand and walk? Do you force your child to sit unassisted? So why force your child to sleep at 8 weeks?

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