I think you'll find the stats say most are genuine, sure there are a few scammers- but so there are in every society - how many people in Australia scam the government? Heaps.
The mental trauma that many of these people face from the things that they have seen is massive, they have huge rates of PTSD and depression and some of them end up locked up in detention centres for years and treated like criminals when they are not. The amount of suicide attempts and self harm that happen in the centres is huge. There was a report done by a group of psychiatrists that said we should not be locking these people up - it is basically one of the worst things we could do.
Do you really think they should be jumping up and down and kissing our feet because we lock them up?
And what is with the fear of "boat people" 90% of Asylum seekers come over on the good old fashioned plane and you don't hear people screaming "send the plane people back". I mean come on, ever think maybe you might be buying into the media hype??
They aren't even referred to as 'plane people'. I find the term 'boat people' incredibly insulting.
You're right ~Bec~ there are lots of scamming Australians. We have gangs, violence, thieves, you name it. Assuming that because somebody is from overseas they must have an ulterior motive or must have a dubious plan is xenophobic at best.
I think the 'boat people' label is a way of dehumanising them. It makes it easier for the government to treat them badly because its saying they aren't regular people the same as us. No they're 'boat people'; like a sub class of people.
My parents came here on a boat. But they never get referred to as boat people. The convicts and early settlers all came here by boat too but that label doesn't get used for them either.
I heard a report the other day that said the highest number of visa overstayers were from the States. Why is that not worse than Asylum seekers? Eventually A/S will work and pay taxes, if you overstay your visa you will have to work cash in hand otherwise the authorities would catch you.
I have no doubt there are many genuine refugees in the world that need asylum.
However the Australian population is becoming hardened to the plight of refugees resulting in grumpy old men like the one you ran into. Several things are hardening public opinion:
not all people who arrive on boats are genuine refugees. Take capt Emad the people smuggler that featured in the
4 corners episode for example. And I doubt he's not the only one, illegal arrivals are known to dump ID documents overboard and encourage young adults to lie about their age before they arrive in OZ. People are worried that we really don't know who the people are. How many murderers and rapists are hidden amongst them? (no poit relying on security checks when people throw their ID overboard!).
2. Window shopping
Asylum seekers arrive via plane to a safe haven country ... And then organise an illegal boat trip to another country (Australia). Many think this is arrogant & self entitled window shopping .... (ie "we don't want safe haven in any old country, we want out nr 1 pick!").
- This also makes people doubt the genuine nature of their asylum claim (if they were in harms way back home, why don't they seek safe haven in the first safe haven country they arrive in?)
- people don't like to feel that their national borders are not secure and any old bogeyman can get them.
4. Queue jumping
Jumping in line is un-Australian. Jump in line at the school cafeteria and you'll cop an earful. Many see refugees arriving illegally as Queue jumpers. Why can't they wait in line at the UNHCR camps with all the poor refugees that can't afford thousands of $ to pay people smugglers. Illegal entry just makes the process longer and harder for those Seeking to come here illegally.
5. Assistance from inside
It's well known that family in OZ facilitate their relatives and friends coming here illegally. They pay people smuggling deposits and are in constant communication with the smuglee throughout their adventure. On the 4 corners show one lady in OZ was upset that her boyfriend went missing, presumably when an illegal boat struck disaster. Now I wouldn't wish death on anyone but this woman pretty much admitted she paid a people smuggler to bring her boyfriend out here so she could marry him. There was no mention of any hardship he faced back home. People get the heeby jeebies at the thought of someone in Australia actively organizing something like this. And it feeds the belief that not all people arriving illegally are genuine refugees.
Last edited by VicPark; 10-08-2012 at 13:30.
Many people are just uneducated and ignorant twits and some are just uncaring ar$eholes.
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