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    Quote Originally Posted by Blossompossum View Post
    Sure post some links. All I hear is the medias side of things
    Ahhh. Well your posts make sense now, kind of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GluttonForPunishment View Post
    Surprise surprise, there are a**hole refugees. Let us judge all refugees on this basis, because we have no locally grown a**holes of our own. No, none at all.
    :haha: so many things I could say to this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlissedOut View Post
    I don't think being abrasive and nasty about BlossumPossum's ignorance on this topic is really going to make them receptive.

    I know I'm abrasive often, but this is an opportunity to educate someone on something really important and she seems quite receptive.
    Good point. *takes angry hat off*

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    It's much cheaper and more humane to process them here, and not in detention, either.

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    I'm uneducated on this topic, but I am aware that Australia's intake of refugees is a pittance compared to other countries. Also, that the number of european backpackers living, working and I suppose settling down illegally in Australia far outweighs the number of asylum seekers, in particular the number arriving by boat.

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    Blossompossum - Have you seen the tv show 'go back to where you came from' on sbs? CLICK

    I highly recommend it, it might help you see things from a different point of view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blossompossum View Post
    If you were seeking asylum would you not go to the first available safe country? Why would they do this? http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/...-1226436220053
    In addition to what others have said, my understanding is that they are not allowed to work in Indonesia. If you cannot work, you cannot eat or feed your family. Therefore, they can't live in Indonesia, it's not feasible. I'm not really sure how the Daily T expected them to deal with this issue.

    In relation to the rest of this, I was in Italy last September, just before Berlosconi was ousted. The country was in turmoil and people were concerned it was going to go the way of Greece. They were desperate. At the same time, during the first 6 months of 2011, over 64,000 asylum seekers arrived on Lampeduso (sp?) from Libya. This is an Italian island and the EU refused to assist. I was discussing this with some Italians and all they complained about was the lack of help from the EU, and said their entire government is on the brink of collapse and how can they deal with this? One thing I noticed though, was that not one of them suggested that the asylum seekers shouldn't have been on the boats, or that they were 'queue jumpers' or anything like that. They respected their right to seek asylum and understood that they were desperate, their country was just in a really bad way and they didn't know how to deal with it.

    We then told about the situation in our country and got the comment 'wow, you must be so happy with your government, we can only dream of having so few boats'. How do you tell these people that in fact the citizens of Australia seem to think that our stable, prosperous country takes too many asylum seekers?

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    This guy is fabulous! I used to listen to him on RRR on my way to work. He is the CEO of the Asylum Seeker Resource Centre - and you know what...

    ...he makes things nice and easy to understand.

    Kon Karapanagiotidis - Why So Frightened?

    http://www.podcast.tv/video-episodes...-15322301.html

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    Anyone seeking to know the facts about the asylum seeker issue, rather than just what they see on the news or read on news.com, I strongly encourage you to read the article I posted earlier:

    http://www.asrc.org.au/media/documen...o-apr-2011.pdf

    It addresses the common myths and fears that stop people from wanting us to accept refugees. It is very easy to read and will put your mind at ease on a lot of things eg terrorism threat. (Terrorists are far more likely to come by air than boat because our boat arrivals are subject to extremely stringent security tests. The number of adverse assessments issued against boat arrivals is astonishingly low).

    We do not need to fear these people. They are people just like the rest of us who are trying to keep themselves and their children safe. They do not pose anymore of a threat to us than the people who are already here.

    And by accepting them we get actual long term benefits.

    Its a no brainer. Morally, compassionately, and in practical terms.

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    Snap MissMuppet! It is not a complex issue it's actually a really simple issue made complicated by factions not by people.

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