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    Totally agree! If Tony Abbots becomes PM we will seriously consider leaving the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kw123 View Post
    Totally agree! If Tony Abbots becomes PM we will seriously consider leaving the country.
    Us too! My partner has been offered a few jobs os, I think we might just move!

    In response to the original comment, people with that kind of attitude will never change no matter what you say to then. Def do some volunteer work, it will make you feel empowered and that you are doing something about your beliefs. You'll also be around more like minded people.

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    I don't mind helping boat people but when does it stop. We have homeless people living right under our noses for whatever reason and people seem to forget this. The cost of living is increasing and people are living below the poverty line. The people who arrive in our country for reasons of war etc I have no issue with and yes Australia doesn't take as many refugees as other countries but why can't we look out for our own first if we have a shortage of public housing where are all these people going to live once they have made refugee status. I know I may get a few responses from this but that's how I feel.

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    Anyone with that kind of opinion is clearly ignorant. You don't have to be very worldly to know what kind of horrors these people face in their home countries and on their journeys as they flee these horrific situations.

    How anyone's life is more valuable based on where they happened to be born is beyond me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cakester69 View Post
    I don't mind helping boat people but when does it stop. We have homeless people living right under our noses for whatever reason and people seem to forget this. The cost of living is increasing and people are living below the poverty line. The people who arrive in our country for reasons of war etc I have no issue with and yes Australia doesn't take as many refugees as other countries but why can't we look out for our own first if we have a shortage of public housing where are all these people going to live once they have made refugee status. I know I may get a few responses from this but that's how I feel.
    A 1995 study found that the benefit to the economy of accepting asylum seekers outweighed the costs. They expand our employment skills base and contribute to society.

    A 2003 study found that Afghan asylum seekers in Australia worked very hard in labour intensive jobs, benefiting their employers and increasing our tax revenue.

    So they do not impact on our ability to look after 'our own'. In fact, they expand our ability to do so.

    If you want to see where I got that info from, you can read for yourself here:

    http://www.asrc.org.au/media/documen...o-apr-2011.pdf

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    I'm not gonna lie I used to think that way

    I think we need to have more refugee visas though. Way more. And they need to figure out a way to process them a lot quicker.

    DP is ex navy & he has told me both horror and good stories about the 'boat people'. Some attack/throw their food at them etc, when the sailors are only trying to help. Some are so nice and do thankful though. Unfortunately some sailors only ever see the bad side so form that opinion

    We need more education

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    Quote Originally Posted by cakester69 View Post
    I don't mind helping boat people but when does it stop. We have homeless people living right under our noses for whatever reason and people seem to forget this. The cost of living is increasing and people are living below the poverty line. The people who arrive in our country for reasons of war etc I have no issue with and yes Australia doesn't take as many refugees as other countries but why can't we look out for our own first if we have a shortage of public housing where are all these people going to live once they have made refugee status. I know I may get a few responses from this but that's how I feel.
    See, I don't think of it as looking after "us" and "them". We are all human beings, we are all deserving of a safe place to live, and all of us that have struggled, be it through homelessness, poverty, war or oppression are just as deserving of empathy and help as the next person, regardless of what bit of land you were born on.

    We are one race, the human race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cakester69 View Post
    I don't mind helping boat people but when does it stop. We have homeless people living right under our noses for whatever reason and people seem to forget this. The cost of living is increasing and people are living below the poverty line. The people who arrive in our country for reasons of war etc I have no issue with and yes Australia doesn't take as many refugees as other countries but why can't we look out for our own first if we have a shortage of public housing where are all these people going to live once they have made refugee status. I know I may get a few responses from this but that's how I feel.
    Capitalism, by definition, requires an ever present underclass for it to exist. We will always have unemployment and sadly we will always have an underclass. (I'm not suggesting it's ok, just stating as a fact.)

    I only watched the show "Send them back to where they came from" recently and I would highly recommend it. I would have been put off by the title but it's a facinating documentary about 6 Australians given a refugee experience and how their attitudes change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenhorn View Post

    DP is ex navy & he has told me both horror and good stories about the 'boat people'. Some attack/throw their food at them etc, when the sailors are only trying to help. Some are so nice and do thankful though. Unfortunately some sailors only ever see the bad side so form that opinion
    It makes you wonder what they have been through to react to uniformed officers this way. Poor things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cakester69 View Post
    I don't mind helping boat people but when does it stop. We have homeless people living right under our noses for whatever reason and people seem to forget this. The cost of living is increasing and people are living below the poverty line. The people who arrive in our country for reasons of war etc I have no issue with and yes Australia doesn't take as many refugees as other countries but why can't we look out for our own first if we have a shortage of public housing where are all these people going to live once they have made refugee status. I know I may get a few responses from this but that's how I feel.
    Where does what end?

    And how are refugees responsible for homelessness?

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