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    timetoshine - i've had a couple of laps too, and always 3 incisions. hope the recovery is not too painful

    thanks crofty, finally someone has teased me about my novel so now i feel truly welcome...so we're both on stim no.6, c'mon no.6!!!

    tigger - thanks for the epsom salts idea, sounds great! will check it out, but your right it certainly can't hurt. i have heard that keeping your feet warm with socks on is a good idea as well

    cheals - omg the hunger!!! seriously i just finished a bowl of curry and veges for lunch and have hunger pains again, what the?! thanks for the welcome

    B123 - are you cycling now/soon? i already take all of my steroids in morning, 1 tablet. unfortunately i used to suffer quite a bit of anxiety/depression in my 20's. haven't needed medication for awhile, but every time i go back on the steroids i get really hyper like i'm crawling the ceiling, same thing happened to my mum when she needed them once for an allergic reaction - she didn't sleep for about 7 days and had to be sedated all while on a cruise ship - what a terrible holiday! And yes i take 5000 vit D3 and 3000mg good quality fish oil

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    Quote Originally Posted by lissyloulou View Post
    Hi again, sorry you are probably already sick of me clogging up this thread!
    Quick question - do you girls take naprogesic for period pain if you are in a cycle? I've just heard it's not good for fertility for some reason and get paranoid it's going to stuff something up. I am in terrible pain today, and I had panadeine last night instead but it never seems to target it as well as naprogesic
    I have also read to avoid naprogesic when trying to conceive so I haven't taken it for some time now. Its hard as other pain killers don't do anything for me. Hot packs and baths are the only things that help me....

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    Quote Originally Posted by T1gger View Post
    I have spoken to my GP about natural versions of DHEA and she suggested Epson salt foot soak as that would do no harm. I was recommended by FS not to have DHEA and I explained to GP that I wanted my levels checked but not to go against FS and she came up with this idea for us.

    Sometimes a "female Issue Doctor" for want of a better phrase can point you to something that is not going to harm you. Sometimes its the basics that can make all the difference. I was dubious about not using DHEA and now I've found a natural alternative. I am over the moon

    Perhaps you could try soaking your feet in Epson salts too - as it is actually quite refreshing and harmless but might relax you.

    Babydust to all
    HI Tigger, what are the Epsom salts supposed to do? I'm not completely clear.

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    My acupuncturist believes that soaking your feet every night in really warm water helps with the implantation due to improving the circulation to the lower half of the body. All the meridians of the body that pass through the uterus go down to the feet. I did it every night for 3 weeks prior to transfer and now I'm just keeping the feet warm with my ugg boots.

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    Hi girls,
    I am new to this thread, much googling has lead me here.
    Quick bit about me and then I have a couple of questions I hope you dont mind me asking.
    Me: TTC 3 years, 4 stimulated IVFs - 4 chemical pregnancies (1 with Clomid and 3 IVF) The first one may have been ectopic - that was the thought of the specialist in the end, I ended up having a methotrexate injection and its debatable whats going on now as I have very very low hcg levels at the moment that are going up only the slightest (last thurs: 41, monday 57, wed 62 and awaiting tomorrows bt before dr will make a decision - hopefully not ectopic) Anyway, I feel at a loss. Alot of your long post lissylou really rung home with me. This will have been my third try with dr Ong, I have found him very good but still dont have answers as to why this keeps happening. After the third try, where I got no eggs through to day 5 he suggested that it may be am egg quality issue and I should consider egg donation. We started to look into this and will likely be going down this path but decided to do one last try with my own and this time (with a different protochol) I ended up with 5 blastocytes (2 on day 5 and three on day 6) - the embryologist said they all looked pretty good - yet I have another chemical ? ectopic with the 2 transferred? So I am wondering if it is my eggs or an imune issue or somehing else (ive had a lots of tests ANA, some APAs, Factor five - dont know if Ive had everything - you know how Monash is a little vague) which leads me to here. I dont want to waste the last 3 we have on ice as they are so precious given the cycle before I got none and if going to egg donation I dont want to attack another persons eggs.
    Lissylou: I think its good your doing Menopur, synarel, luveris and growth hormone - thats what I changed to last cyle and ended up with the 5 blasts after none the one before - I hadnt thought it possible. Can I ask what dose of Saizen (growth hormone) they have you and what days - there was a lot of confusion about this at Monash. I too have considered changing to wazza and actually have an appointment booked with him on the 22nd of July (big waiting times) but wonder what else he could do for me?
    My questions for anyone willing to answer them, I started reading at page 1 but have not yet read all your posts so sorry if these questions are previously answered:
    * Who has had success with Dr Matthias?
    * I have uterine natural killer cells of 25% - does anyone else have this high and have you had a success?
    * Why does he go for IVIg over intralipid? Curious as it appears so much dearer and some stuff on the internet say IL is just as good
    * Has anyone used Humira with him -I Know Helenmac you talked about wanting it in earlier posts. I have also read the Dr Beer book
    *After the phone consult with him, how many times duing an IVF cycle do you need to see him as I live on the goldcoast?
    I feel at a loss as to where to go from here. I was originally going to make an appointment with Gavin sacks as he got a friend pregnant after 8 years of trying and numerous IVF cycles but then I read bout him on here and you girls seem to favour dr Mathias. I have booked a phone consult with dr Matthias for 2 weeks (earliest I could get). These are the options I am thinking about:
    * Getting dr Matthias treatment then doing FET with my 3 blasts left if they survive the thaw
    * Doing a whole new fresh cycle with Gavin sacks doing the lot (IVF and immune issues) andn leaving my three frozens as possibly for a sibling later. My AMH was 4 a year ago so quantity of eggs left are an issue
    * Doing a new fresh with Wazza and Dr Matthias
    * Looking for donor eggs as maybe my eggs are the problem
    * Doing PGD testing next time - Do you think it is possible to have had 5 chromosally abnormal embryos put in over a year which were the best out of 60 eggs taken out. Have never done PGD testing because of the cost - its so hard in this IVF world to know where to prioritize the money you have as it is not limitless
    * looking into a surrogate for the three frrozens as maybe I am unable to carry them - I really dont want to waste them with a 5th chemical pregnancy
    * Going back to city Fertility with Dr Dunn with Dr Matthias input - This is where I did IVF cycle one and got the best quality embryo I have ever had - they called it textbook perfect - it still became a chemical - Maybe the lab conditions differ slightly and City Fertility could grow one that good again
    So as you can see I am completely at a lost as to our next step. I have an appointment with Dr Ong next Wednesday so maybe he will have some further advice. Its just fustrating having been on this path for 3 years and still not having the answers as I know you all feel. Well sorry this was so long about me
    I wish you all the best in your cycles and with your pregnancies, we certainly deserve it. I have my fingers crossed for you Helenmac with these capetown blasts
    Oh and I have also had two laps and have four incisions each time - 1 in the belly button, each ovaries and down lower maybe the uterus - I have endo
    Thanks for reading x

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    Hi sandy1,

    Glad you found us! I thank the info I gained on this thread for leading me to dr Matthias.

    To answer a couple of your questions:
    I got pregnant on my first cycle with Dr M's immune protocol. It was my 7th transfer. The first 3 were bfn. 4 & 5 were chemicals - FS had me on a 5 day course of dexamethasone but with my NK cells (that I only suspected at that stage) it wasn't enough. Dr M had me on steroids until about 27 wks. Transfer 6 was a bfn. Sought immune treatment from dr m. Diagnosed with very high NK cells in blood and slightly elevated in uterus. Now 31wks pregnant which I never ever thought would happen. Bub is due 5 years to the day since we started TTC
    I had intralipid rather than IVIG. Lots cheaper but I think just not effective for some women.
    I think after your phone consult you don't really need to see dr m unless he needs to do a biopsy. I believe there is somewhere in Brisbane that will do intralipids according to his protocol. Someone recently posted about it. He can certainly send your BT requests and prescriptions via mail.

    I would definitely recommend a consult with dr m. He has helped so many ladies on here who thought they'd exhausted their options with their FS. don't know much about dr sacks. Good luck!

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    hi lissy,

    i'm new here (been reading up for a while) but just wanted to jump in and mention something that helped me a lot when i was on steroids (5mg) last year. my naturopath suggested 'traumeel S', homeopathic tablets, a -Heel product. they were a life saver! for some reason i reacted very badly to even the 5mg per day - went beet red, very aggressive and emotional, could feel my blood pumping through my veins, difficulty sleeping. When i took the traumeel tablets i calmed down, when i forgot to take them i got those symptoms, so they must have worked.

    I hope they help you.

    So glad to hear all the good news on this thread!

    AFM: a naturopath suggested DrM some months ago. I googled him before the consult and found this thread. I already had Dr Beers book but had dismissed it thinking there was no-one in australia following it anyway. So picked it up and read it properly.

    I had my first consult with him easter thursday, had the biopsy and hysteroscopy the following tuesday, did the blood tests and am waiting for results which should come through next week i hope. I had already been diagnosed with high NK cells by previous FS's (off the scales results), hence the steroids last year. Which needless to say didn't work and I had a strong reaction to.

    Will be interesting to see what DrM prescribes, will let you all know.

    Good luck to all!!!



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    Hi,
    I just wanted to say a superquick thanks Bella, you have given me some hope and thanks for the info. Sorry I wrote so much, got carried away, thanks for reading it. At times, I feel like there is no hope so it is great to hear doctor M worked out well for you. Congratulations on your very soon to be baby. Do you know if you are having a boy or a girl?
    Thanks again x

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    Hi Ladies,

    I know what you mean about the prednisolone and not sleeping. Flowers, I had similar symptoms at the beginning with being very emotional, angry and then my blood pumping through my veins with hot flushes too - thankfully not menopause lol. I took some extra time off work and thankfully it settled down after a few nights of temazepam and now I have a meditation for fertility to listen to at 4am when I wake up and I really recommend it. befertile.com.au

    Thanks for the warm welcomes everyone and I'll be with you guys helen, crofty, cheals and lissy during the cycle. I just had the embryo transfer today and trying to rest up and get my head around the 2ww until the blood test.
    Thinking sticky thoughts for you all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romy Sydney View Post
    Hi greta ..Kiwi and I are both having intralipid this weekend on sat. ... It would be nice to meet u there??


    Me 32 / DH 36
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    Hi Romy & Kiwi,
    thanks for your posts and it would have been great to meet up there, maybe if I'm lucky enough for a BFP we might meet up there another time. It was pretty overwhelming going there, as I had to fly up from Melbourne and was pretty stressed out and sleep deprived when I arrived. So I just slept heaps when the IVIG drip was put up.
    The lovely midwife Sue then asked another Melbourne girl who's 20 weeks pregnant to share her story with me and it was so wonderful to hear her journey and know exactly how it feels.
    Hopefully I'll be back for another IVIg if I'm lucky enough with a BFP and we might be booked in again at the same time


 

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