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    Allowing people to publicly discriminate on grounds of race and ethnicity in the name of free speech is atrocious. He has no idea what free speech means. My right to say what I like should not extend to vilifying someone else based on race.
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    I am seriously worried about the future society my children will have to be apart of.
    I think he is opening us up to ad campaigns based on racist, homophobic, sexist ect beliefs that can hide behind the name of free speach. Frightening.

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    Just a taste of what's to come. God help us all.
    The scary thing is that many people agree with him and will vote for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    WTF?? I also really fear for the nation we will become if he gets in.

    and I agree with a PP, bring back Rudd
    Not if, more like when, because guaranteed he will get in.

    Very scary indeed!

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    Oh dear

    I wish that awful awful man would go away.

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    Whilst I don't think "hurt feelings" is a strong enough ground to curb free speech there has to be levels of accountability. Inciting hate, discrimination or putting lives in danger should not be tolerated in a civilised society. But even saying that I'm ok with a neo-nazi being able to voice their opinion (albeit a repugnant opinion) providing their are platforms and forums to rebut. However, I don't think anyone could argue that there should be no restrictions to free speech - that would make it ok to stand in a full theatre and should "FIRE" for the fun of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Girl X View Post
    I don't normally get involved in political threads, and I'm pretty sure I'm going to regret doing so now, but... (deep breath)

    I actually think Tony Abbott has a point.

    The labour government has indicated that it may not approve a new news regulator, unless a number of media outlets 'better regulate' themselves. The current government has made various complaints about media reporting, particularly with regard to reports that do not favour government policy or opinion.

    Ray Finkelstein advocates putting several individuals (who would be funded by the government) in charge of media regulation. The Coalition opposes this suggestion, and views it as contradictory to our ideals of freedom of speech, saying that we do not need further regulation in our media - and that it is not in the public's best interest. I agree with this.

    Tony Abbott does not support 'hate speech' and makes it quite clear that (in his words) it is 'deplorable' to insult, humiliate, or intimidate others.

    However, his point is that legislating on grounds of 'hurt feelings' is impossible.
    I don't know how anybody can deny that the media in this country is biased, especially when you look at who owns the media.

    Tony Abbott is doing this so friends of his like Andrew Bolt can get away with being racist idiots.

    It doesn't surprise me really, the guy has no substance.

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    Now I have gathered myself I'll explain why I find this so offensive.

    Firstly, this will have more than an effect on the media, it will knock on to society in general. People will have no issue making racial slights and citing free speech as an excuse.

    Secondly this isn't free speech. One can have an opinion and voice it without hating on certain groups bc they are well... in that group. Minimising racism to people getting "hurt feelings" is very sad. I liken it to the 'HTFU and stop being so sensitive.... people can't make you feel anything you don't decide to feel' rubbish I see on here - victim blaming.

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    This worries me because it means people like Andrew Bolt and the likes will write rubbish, like the articles mentioned about fair-skinned Anoriginal people, or Muslims, and some people read these things and actually believe it. I believe there need to be laws in place to protect minority groups from uneducated bullying like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Bec~ View Post
    Whilst I don't think "hurt feelings" is a strong enough ground to curb free speech there has to be levels of accountability. Inciting hate, discrimination or putting lives in danger should not be tolerated in a civilised society. But even saying that I'm ok with a neo-nazi being able to voice their opinion (albeit a repugnant opinion) providing their are platforms and forums to rebut. However, I don't think anyone could argue that there should be no restrictions to free speech - that would make it ok to stand in a full theatre and should "FIRE" for the fun of it.
    I agree, and the laws would still protect this.

    I actually think that the news article quoted at the start of the thread doesn't really explain what's happening well enough.

    It's not about 'anything goes' at all. It's about trying to stop the labour government from going down a bit of an Orwellian path, as well as looking at how we legislate and how we define terms used in legislation.


 

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