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    Good points missie_mack.
    I would expect if the op isnt getting the hourly rate that she should be getting as per the award then that is not right.
    I found when i came back pt it took longer to go up an increment to get the next rise as per the award as its based on 1.0fte, so rather than going up a pay increment every 12 mths it takes 18 or so.

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    I think Therippleeffect is referring to the pay increment she is getting - ie. she moved from Level 4/1 to Level 4/2. This would be subject to increase in experience and period of service, so parental leave may affect the timing of that.

    Getting a 3% payrise is different to moving up an increment. A 3% payrise would be across the board and increase the hourly rate of each increment. Parental leave should not be able to affect that whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyla View Post

    Just because you have taken leave does not mean you are any less qualified or experienced in your role.
    Whether we like it or not being out of the workforce can cause your productivity to decline as you can become out of touch with the latest tools, customers, projects etc. It can take months/years to catch up. This does not mean that a woman who returns to the workforce will be less productive than a male counterpart (eg if she was highly productive to start with and the male was a slacker).

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Whether we like it or not being out of the workforce can cause your productivity to decline as you can become out of touch with the latest tools, customers, projects etc. It can take months/years to catch up. This does not mean that a woman who returns to the workforce will be less productive than a male counterpart (eg if she was highly productive to start with and the male was a slacker).
    I think it's very subjective depending on the industry - my work is not based on productivity but expertise. Sometimes an employer is not paying for hours but expertise within a specialised role.

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    I should point out that we are all on individual contracts and not covered under award or EBA. I suspect in my case the pay rise it totally at their discretion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kw123 View Post
    I'm an HR professional in a global finance company and this attitude makes me feel a bit sick too.

    Can I ask what your actual role is? Are you a generalist? Do you have an HR qualification?

    Glad I don't work in your company!
    My role is HR advisor and yes I do have a Bachelors degree in HR and commenced studying my Masters in HR earlier this year however had to defer as it was too difficult in early pregnancy.

    I'm glad you don't work for my company too, I prefer to work with people who value my input and knowledge rather than questioning my title or the letters after my name!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JR03 View Post
    My role is HR advisor and yes I do have a Bachelors degree in HR and commenced studying my Masters in HR earlier this year however had to defer as it was too difficult in early pregnancy.

    I'm glad you don't work for my company too, I prefer to work with people who value my input and knowledge rather than questioning my title or the letters after my name!
    If I was a shareholder I'd rather work in your company... One that (within the law) looks after its bottom line and hands out bonuses/pay increments on a pro-rats basis. Businesses who hand out $$ willy nilly to people who haven't been there a chunk of the year will go broke and then everyone will be stuffed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    If I was a shareholder I'd rather work in your company... One that (within the law) looks after its bottom line and hands out bonuses/pay increments on a pro-rats basis. Businesses who hand out $$ willy nilly to people who haven't been there a chunk of the year will go broke and then everyone will be stuffed.
    They won't go broke, the same big companies manage to stay afloat in other countries where things are much more progressive!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JR03 View Post
    My role is HR advisor and yes I do have a Bachelors degree in HR and commenced studying my Masters in HR earlier this year however had to defer as it was too difficult in early pregnancy.

    I'm glad you don't work for my company too, I prefer to work with people who value my input and knowledge rather than questioning my title or the letters after my name!
    Yes but my point is that you are incorrect so I was questioning your knowledge.

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    And I would rather own shares in KW123's company, where they value their employees, who will in turn show loyalty to the company, will be more productive and are less likely to leave. Which means less money spent recruiting and training new employees, and ultimately a better bottom line.

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