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    Quote Originally Posted by babybubbles View Post
    She meant position as in ectopic or not. You cannot judge that by feel.
    Yes, which is why I said what I did about HCG levels.

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    umm HCG levels wont pick up an ectopic

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    Yes, which is why I said what I did about HCG levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babybubbles View Post
    umm HCG levels wont pick up an ectopic
    I disagree.

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    Why? Are you a doctor? Seriously you are coming across very judgey, to women who've experienced (multiple) losses and invasive scans that bring only bad news. It sucks, it breaks your heart, and having someone covertly question their judgement in having a scan or not is NOT ON. I don't care if that's your intention or the reason you started the thread, that's how it's coming across. You said before you understand now why people do it, so I think you should just drop it rather than arguing the toss for no benefit to anyone.

    This thread has really ticked me off #angry

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiggerfields View Post
    Why? Are you a doctor? Seriously you are coming across very judgey, to women who've experienced (multiple) losses and invasive scans that bring only bad news. It sucks, it breaks your heart, and having someone covertly question their judgement in having a scan or not is NOT ON. I don't care if that's your intention or the reason you started the thread, that's how it's coming across. You said before you understand now why people do it, so I think you should just drop it rather than arguing the toss for no benefit to anyone.

    This thread has really ticked me off #angry
    Don't take it personal, I'm not questioning your judgment, I'm allowed to disagree that hcg levels are not used to detect ectopic.

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    They are used in conjunction with prompt ultrasound scan diagnosis. I should know, I've done the whole thing. Twice. If you can't see that having a high handed academic discussion (in which you're wrong anyway) of methods of ectopic pregnancy diagnosis is insensitive in such an obviously emotive thread then you clearly have all the empathy of a housebrick. I'll bow out now as I'm clearly wasting my breath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiggerfields View Post
    They are used in conjunction with prompt ultrasound scan diagnosis. I should know, I've done the whole thing. Twice. If you can't see that having a high handed academic discussion (in which you're wrong anyway) of methods of ectopic pregnancy diagnosis is insensitive in such an obviously emotive thread then you clearly have all the empathy of a housebrick. I'll bow out now as I'm clearly wasting my breath.
    I don't know the history of every single bubhubber!

    And you don't know my history, either. I've had an ultrasound where there was nothing there, so don't tell me that I'm wrong, and that I have no empathy.

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    HCG levels can definitely indicate an ectopic. They have with both of my ectopics. Levels that arent rising adequately will almoat always be followed up to rule out an ectopic. And then I get an evil scan to check location. We then choose best course of action. Much preferable to a rupture.

    I always have a scan. 1 missed MC, 2 x ectopic, 1 'normal' mc and A couple of chemicals thrown in too. Also had the whole carry around a dead baby for weeks things too. Worst feeling in my life. Had the D&C immediately.

    I have scans for my safety and my sanity. And I am unsure of how or why that has any impact on what anyone else thinks or does with their lives. And I know my dates very, very well.

    I also have bloods taken every 48 hours from BFP to that first scan. I'm sure I'm doing something terrible there too.

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    Peace of mind. And to be sure of dates! xx

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    I disagree.
    Have you ever had an ectopic?!?

    I've had two. The first one, it wasn't picked up with HCG levels (no early scan) and I had a rupture, had massive bleeding and was rushed to emergency surgery.

    The second time my hcg levels rose adequately, we thought all was good, but my tube ruptured the day before my 6wk scan unfortunately. I lost my tube.

    The following pregnancy I had a scan at 5 wks to check for ectopic - luckily that time it was fine.

    So while hcg levels CAN pick an ectopic, that's not ALWAYS true

    If I were you I wouldn't make comments about things you obviously arent knowledgable about.

    You say you're not here to offend people yet you're not stopping with the hard judgements and have not shown an ounce of empathy for those who have suffered losses.

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