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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    It is used all the time as a dig at ffing mothers as if they are doing the wrong thing. You can argue semantics all you want, but at the end of the day - it is used as an insult all the time on bh. That is what annoys me most about it, Not the term itself - but the way it is used.
    Yeah I know what you mean, I guess I'm just saying i dont see the term itself as inflammatory, although I do recognise it can be used in a way that some women find hurtful (although I don't know if causing hurt is usually the intent- moreso the promotion of breast feeding- which is NOT the same as putting down those who choose not to or can't). I think a lot of words/terms can cause cause hurt if used in a particular way, so it's more the way it's used than the term itself (in my opinion).

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    Quote Originally Posted by share a book View Post
    Anything can be used as an insult. And how is it more insulting than breastfeeding supporters being called nipple nazis or the titty taliban? Supporting one does not mean being anti the other. But being compared to nazis or the taliban is supposedly acceptable.
    I think those are equally offensive, and are very quickly removed on here I've noticed, as they should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    I think those are equally offensive, and are very quickly removed on here I've noticed, as they should be.
    Yep, same with when ff is attacked. As people have said, the term is not unless it is used in an offensive manner.

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    If it's said like -

    "In hospital he was having abm/artificial breast milk...."

    Is very different "tone" to:

    "I would never artificially feed my baby"

    "So you're giving your baby artificial breast milk?"

    (Though swap abm for ff those sentences could still be pretty catty!)

    I do appreciate why ABA would call it ABM. And very much understand why hospitals don't call it formula, because that could mean anything. And I appreciate why maybe mums who spent a lot of time in nicu or who are nurses might habitually refer to formula as abm (or variations)... but there's no denying it can and is used passive aggressively.

    Though so can this fella.

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    The thing that's doing my head in the most?

    That a thread about semantics is actually constantly quoting the wrong words for the acronym "ABM"

    It doesn't stand for artificial breast milk in medical circles.

    IT STANDS FOR ARTIFICIAL BABY MILK

    That is all.

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    Did you know the term 'formula' was introduced as a marketing mechanism back when formula was created. It was a very very clever marketing campaign, but doctors would also individually 'formulise' milk for each mother- so mothers began to get the impression that this 'scientific formulated milk' was superior to their own breastmilk. You can read more about this in the book 'The Politics of Breastfeeding'.

    The term 'artificial milk' was introduced to counter this widely held belief that formula is somehow superior, or equivalent to breastmilk.

    It is not and should not be used passive aggressively to insult mothers who can not or choose not to breastfeed.

    PS- I do not agree with the term 'breast milk substitute' as this perpetuates the myth that formula is equivalent to breast milk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by share a book View Post
    Anything can be used as an insult. And how is it more insulting than breastfeeding supporters being called nipple nazis or the titty taliban? Supporting one does not mean being anti the other. But being compared to nazis or the taliban is supposedly acceptable.
    Also totally offensive. I agree you can be both supportive and respectful of both.

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    I think we're all very aware that breast milk is better for babies but not always possible, so again what's wrong with just calling it formula and move on. Clearly calling it artificial milk or whatever upsets people and makes others feel guilty and don't we already get enough of that as mothers. It's called formula so let's call it formula. If you used a term in conversation and the person you were talking to said it upset them, wouldn't you not use it any longer so what's the difference here, artificial milk upsets some but it seems some don't care so clearly it's being used seemingly just to upset. Move on and realise you don't know everyone's personal struggles but lets not add to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linda01 View Post
    I think we're all very aware that breast milk is better for babies but not always possible, so again what's wrong with just calling it formula and move on. Clearly calling it artificial milk or whatever upsets people and makes others feel guilty and don't we already get enough of that as mothers. It's called formula so let's call it formula. If you used a term in conversation and the person you were talking to said it upset them, wouldn't you not use it any longer so what's the difference here, artificial milk upsets some but it seems some don't care so clearly it's being used seemingly just to upset. Move on and realise you don't know everyone's personal struggles but lets not add to it.
    Here here! Well put!

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    Just answering the op (I've only read the first few posts). I do try to use the term formula as I do believe some women haven't healed from their journeys (and that's ok) but I do believe it's artificial milk and I would never choose to use it without exhausting other options first. Honestly I find it hard to say formula maybe because I haven't healed from comping with DS1.

    I do believe it can be inflammatory but I think most of the time the term is not used for that purpose.


 

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