View Poll Results: Do you think the term "artificial milk"is inflammatory?

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    I think the point girlX is making is that no one really calls it artificial tomato sauce. Nor as has been said, artificial birth.

    I don't think anyone is saying it isn't artificial compared to bm, just the motives and connotations of when it is used.
    Just answered it and someone who said that "it is what it is"... I don't call either artificial, but do call one fake and the other crap, and do not find it offensive to call either artificial as both are (therefore it is what it is...).

    And I say it as someone who partially feeds her son formula. I wish I didn't have to, but I do, and I am thankful that I can give it to him even though it's artificial because it's the best alternative to breast milk I can find. But bring the best alternative doesn't make it any less artificial, processed, fake, or whatever people want to call it - the name doesn't bother me because that's what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shelle65 View Post
    The only time I've heard it (apart from bh) was when my midwife visited me when DD was 5 days old. She took one look at me and DD and said "ok we need to get some artificial stuff". I was hugely relieved to get the ok to give my baby some food, instead of her wasting away, too hungry and dehydrated to even bother latching onto my empty breasts. All she could manage was a weak cry from her dry flaky lips. to this day the word "artificial" used in the context of feeding babies takes me right back to that moment, and the most awful awful feeling I have ever had - of not providing food for my beautiful child, and not knowing what to do because I had had "you must only breast feed" drummed into me for months.
    Can I ask if you chose to go home early? I really think mothers should have the option to stay in hospital up to a week.. Untill their milk comes in and bub is feeding. Sometimes milk takes 4-5 days to come in and 24/7 support from experts is great. Sending ladies home and leaving them to worry alone is not cool and IMO sabotages breastfeeding success rates (not saying that's what happened with yourself).

    I think If I didn't stay in hospital 5 nights I could very well be feeding bub formula now (I hope I haven't offended anyone by calling it formula!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose&Aurelia View Post
    ABM as a term is used in the Mater childrens ED and Paed ICU here in bris. I was there last week and was asked how my child was fed - breastmilk or ABM.

    When both my girls were born on discharge I was asked how the were being fed the same way.
    Maybe it's a Qld thing. It certainly was not used in a negative way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Can I ask if you chose to go home early? I really think mothers should have the option to stay in hospital up to a week.. Untill their milk comes in and bub is feeding. Sometimes milk takes 4-5 days to come in and 24/7 support from experts is great. Sending ladies home and leaving them to worry alone is not cool and IMO sabotages breastfeeding success rates (not saying that's what happened with yourself).

    I think If I didn't stay in hospital 5 nights I could very well be feeding bub formula now (I hope I haven't offended anyone by calling it formula!)
    I think there is more to bf than advice. The advice I got in hospital was so conflicting, I was better off out of there. My daughter refused to feed. My son fed like a champ from birth.

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    If there are no complications, our hospital likes people out between 6 hours and 3 days, depending on type of birth, drugs, stitches, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Can I ask if you chose to go home early? I really think mothers should have the option to stay in hospital up to a week.. Untill their milk comes in and bub is feeding. Sometimes milk takes 4-5 days to come in and 24/7 support from experts is great. Sending ladies home and leaving them to worry alone is not cool and IMO sabotages breastfeeding success rates (not saying that's what happened with yourself).

    I think If I didn't stay in hospital 5 nights I could very well be feeding bub formula now (I hope I haven't offended anyone by calling it formula!)
    the fact is that some women cannot breastfeed.
    it has nothing to do with how long they stayed in hospital, or how hard they 'tried'......
    and some hospitals send you home, especially if it is not your first baby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Can I ask if you chose to go home early? I really think mothers should have the option to stay in hospital up to a week.. Untill their milk comes in and bub is feeding. Sometimes milk takes 4-5 days to come in and 24/7 support from experts is great. Sending ladies home and leaving them to worry alone is not cool and IMO sabotages breastfeeding success rates (not saying that's what happened with yourself).

    I think If I didn't stay in hospital 5 nights I could very well be feeding bub formula now (I hope I haven't offended anyone by calling it formula!)
    Many people in public hospitals don't choose to go home early but have no choice but to leave after 24-48 hours...

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    Quote Originally Posted by share a book View Post
    If there are no complications, our hospital likes people out between 6 hours and 3 days, depending on type of birth, drugs, stitches, etc.
    I had to beg for 2 nights after ds3 birth a few months ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loving6 View Post
    I had to beg for 2 nights after ds3 birth a few months ago.
    Yep, they don't like it. My friend had her second early this year, water birth at the birth centre, no tearing, no drugs, no complications, second bub, kicked out after 6 hours.

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    I think maternity hospitals should be reinstated, as an extension of a hospital or somewhere to transfer to once the basic hospital care/birth suite care is done with. Women can stay for 2 weeks or until their supply is established, having full time around the clock LCs on staff and having nurses to take the baby to give mum a much needed break could be the difference for quite a few mums I think.

    I also think partners should be included in the stay so they can also establish skills and understanding, that they may be better supports once home... and of course for bonding needs. If a series of expectations for those first 2 weeks is given to the father, then it's more likely to continue at home.

    I would really love to overhaul the whole maternity system here in Australia.

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