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  • The parents and the child/youth perpetrator are legally accountable

    4 8.70%
  • The parents are accountable, but legally, the child/youth perpetrator should suffer all the consequences

    6 13.04%
  • The child/youth perpetrator is completely accountable for their actions

    34 73.91%
  • Other

    2 4.35%
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    Sometimes the best parents in the world end up with a child who does something unthinkable. Sometimes people are just bad or psychopath,sociopath, whatever. I mean - what is to say that he isn't one of the above? 2% of the population are psychopaths.

    Anyway - I guess we will never really know, unless they make a movie out of it.

    I really feel for that poor boy who died and his family. I can't think of anything more devastating than losing a child.

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    While I feel the for perp for having a bad childhood, at 18 he fully knows right from wrong. if he was 14 or 15 I might have a different stance. If it was a consentual fight, then I would say both the perp and the victim played their role. But this was unprovoked.

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    His parents probably are horrible bogans.

    My issue is if this became a precedent - that parents are held accountable for their adult children's behaviour - that GOOD parents who raised their children well will be charged when there is no way they could prevent their adult child from doing something.

    What do you think the cut off age should be OP?

    Do you think that adult children who have moved out of home and perhaps become addicted to something, a drug or whatnot, that their parents should be dragged through the court system for something they didn't even know anything about?

    He is 18. I want him to be held accountable for his actions just as a 25 year old would. The brain continues to grow well into our 20s, I think it would be absurd to take parents to court because of their child's crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilahh View Post
    LOL how can you compare bad grades and a violent spree that killed somebody
    LLOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLL
    Ummm, are you seriously thinkingthat iswhat I was saying? Wow, ok.
    Last edited by Ffrenchknickers; 20-07-2012 at 11:53.

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    There's nothing in that article that could allow me to conclude whether the parents are to blame.

    You would need to have extensive information about his family life, whether there was abuse, neglect etc before you can start pointing the finger.

    And there are some families where one child will go astray, though often not to this degree. Then the child may have some mental illness. Who knows.

    I think the issue of how responsible an 18yo is versus a 25yo is another question, however even if they should be legally held less responsible, it doesn't mean that the parents need to accept the balance of responsibility.

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    The thing that will haunt Thomas's family is the question why did it happen.

    Was it drugs, alcohol, medical condition or god knows what.

    I really feel sorry for them. I hope the reason is found out so that no other familys have to go through the same pain.

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    My issue is if this became a precedent - that parents are held accountable for their adult children's behaviour - that GOOD parents who raised their children well will be charged when there is no way they could prevent their adult child from doing something.
    I agree, It's a scary thought.

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    My officemate is writing her PhD on psychopathy. It's a myth that they are random occurrences. Make no mistake: they are made.

    Loving nuturing parents produce children who make mistakes from time to time.

    This incident was NOT a mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilahh View Post
    My officemate is writing her PhD on psychopathy. It's a myth that they are random occurrences. Make no mistake: they are made.

    Loving nuturing parents produce children who make mistakes from time to time.

    This incident was NOT a mistake.
    So how do we determine whether the adult's crime was a failure on his/her parent's behalf?

    That sounds expensive and time consuming.

    I think stopping the cycle - by punishing perps themself - is a better option.

    If the parent has neglected/abused a child - then they should be held accountable for that.

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    Wait, your office mate is one person writing her PhD, as opposed the the thousands of studies already out there that say the opposite? So you are going to disregard possibly thousands of studies done, because someone you know, who is a student says it isn't so? Wow.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lilahh View Post
    My officemate is writing her PhD on psychopathy. It's a myth that they are random occurrences. Make no mistake: they are made.

    Loving nuturing parents produce children who make mistakes from time to time.

    This incident was NOT a mistake.

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