View Poll Results: Who is accountable?

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  • The parents and the child/youth perpetrator are legally accountable

    4 8.70%
  • The parents are accountable, but legally, the child/youth perpetrator should suffer all the consequences

    6 13.04%
  • The child/youth perpetrator is completely accountable for their actions

    34 73.91%
  • Other

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    I'm not saying there shouldn't be legal consequences for them if they are guilty, I was just countering the view that their home life is irrelevant. A child's home life is clearly relevant (from a legal and moral perspective) in cases like this.

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    Sorry that reply was to E's mum

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    I absolutely never said it was irrelevant at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Northerly View Post
    I'm not saying there shouldn't be legal consequences for them if they are guilty, I was just countering the view that their home life is irrelevant. A child's home life is clearly relevant (from a legal and moral perspective) in cases like this.

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    You said it is no excuse, I took that to mean it is irrelevant. Sorry if I misinterpreted, I can see where you're coming from now

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    So are parents to blame for this disgusting attack by two young teenage girls in Townsville?
    I personally am sickened to read stuff like this and think they should throw the book at them, even if they have a shocking homelife - it is no excuse.

    http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/...f-autistic-boy
    Fair enough their crappy home lives may have helped mould them into turds. But I don't care: they would have known this was wrong and rhe victim deserves justice They are horrible little bit@hes and are a danger to society. Throw the book at them and don't let them out until a psych says they are no longer a danger to others.

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    Blaming home life sets a precedence that it is "ok" to break the law of your childhood is not 100%. If it is the law not to do something it's pretty clear it's wrong no matter how you grew up.

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    forgive me as I havent read the whole thread.
    I believe he is criminally responsible and should serve his sentence. His parents should be financially responsible for compensation/damages to the victims family.(as I doubt he has any assets)

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    I think he should be FULLY responsible for his crime. If his parents abused, neglected him, I feel bad for him and I think they should be responsible for abusing/neglecting a child (if there's enough evidence/ witness) but they shouldn't be responsible for him going out punching and killing people.

    We have quite a lot of young mothers on this forum and they are sure more mature than many older people, they would be mortified to hear that they're considered "children" or not fully mental developed.

    If you want to punish the parents, do you think the grandparents should be punished too, or the kindergarten carer, teachers, friends, celebrities etc... who both contribute to some part of a person's development?

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    This maybe not very relevant but I grew up in a third world country. We were (and still are) very poor, parents can't have all the time to take care of their children, many of us were exposed to some sort of abuse, don't have good education environment, not much supporting program from the government and the health system. I was somewhat neglected as a child and so were many of my friends. Did we turn out to be criminals? No!

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    That is very relevant I think.

    Quote Originally Posted by lovesushi View Post
    This maybe not very relevant but I grew up in a third world country. We were (and still are) very poor, parents can't have all the time to take care of their children, many of us were exposed to some sort of abuse, don't have good education environment, not much supporting program from the government and the health system. I was somewhat neglected as a child and so were many of my friends. Did we turn out to be criminals? No!


 

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