The parents and the child/youth perpetrator are legally accountable
The parents are accountable, but legally, the child/youth perpetrator should suffer all the consequences
The child/youth perpetrator is completely accountable for their actions
It's very sad that people you like think that just because there are people and systems in place who believe in punishment AND rehabilitation for offenders; who don't believe in treating them as evil, and believe in trying to help them so they don't hurt others again someone how insults the victim.
Also I never ever EVER made excuses for him. Of course he should be punished. Im just trying to understand it. You should really read my posts.
What if he was 25 instead of 18??? Would he deserve punishment then?
My sympathy is with the victims family not the evil ******* who deliberately hurt someone
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I guess I just disagree that all parents should be blamed. Maybe if it can be proven the child or adult was abused by their parents then there maybe a basis. But as a blanket measure - no.
Lilahh you are a terribly aggressive debater. I would say more but you're style is horribly off putting, so I'll just say this. I highly disagree with you.
What about parents who are poor parents, but think they are doing the right thing? The ones who are good people, but may be a bit slack on discipline because they are worried about being too harsh on their kids, or similar? I've met plenty through my work, good law-abiding people who are raising little sh*ts because of choices they are making with the best of intentions. Are we going to punish them when their kids stuff up, for being misguided rather than neglectful, abusive etc?
My brother was punched in the head by a stranger while out in Newcastle, and he's lucky that he's big and ugly enough not to be too badly hurt (split chin which needed stitches). He was just minding his own business. It's scary reading about cases like this one.
I dunno how to word what i want to say without it sounding odd.
My ds#2 (only three years old) has autism, he will be able to function in the world on his own one day without me.
He has a very aggressive personality. Its not learned, the psych has said if u take away his age appropriate behaviour, underneath there is a very defiant aggressive side to his personality. Of course he also can be a real sweetheart, definitely only on his terms tho.
We go to behavural therapy. Occupational therapy, speech therapy as well as early intervention therapy which includes social therapies.
There will come a time where all this help becomes pointless and we just have to hope that what we do now, stops him from being the kind of 18 yr old that king hits someone and kills them.
I'm doing everything i can... But...ultimately his personality is there, its in-built.
If one day he does get into trouble for something, i certainly hope that i will not be labelled as a failed parent, or worse be punished for actions that were put of my control. I think the devastation i would feel knowing someone i created, nurtured, love and tried to help did something that horrible would be punishment enough. I would never recover. I would still love my son, because if he was capable of something like that, i would only assume he wouldnt have many people in his life... And regardless of what he'd done, i couldnt leave him alone in the world.
Well there is my ramble. This came at a weird time for me, as my son and his behaviour has been playing on my mind and worrying me a lot lately.
I blame my parents.
Seriously though, I dont mean to be. I find a lot of posters here passive aggressive. And people just are frustrating when they don't read or listen.
I really don't mean to be, I'll try to end things with less exclamation marks? Sorry.
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