The parents and the child/youth perpetrator are legally accountable
The parents are accountable, but legally, the child/youth perpetrator should suffer all the consequences
The child/youth perpetrator is completely accountable for their actions
Each circumstance is different, so is each person. This is an impossible argument to 'win'.
Both nature and nurture play a role in an individual's personality, u can't pinpoint one thing that made someone behave the way they did.
This person is old enough to know its wrong, even young kids would tell you that killin someone will send u to jail, so no, u can't just blame the parents. U don't know this family's circumstances...
I'm not trolling at all. I just disagree with you.
I agree with you about the bulger case - there was definite abuse there. Kids don't act out in that way at that age, I get that.
But I also get that there are variables in every aspect of life, you are just so set in your view. It is all one way, not variables. I don't get it.
Did you read what I wrote? His parents claimed each grossly neglected their duty of care and were cruel. They also abandoned Jeffrey with no food or money, severely neglecting him.
They failed him!!! And he became a serial killer!!!
Of course I believe in variables, extreme physical and sexual violence in children occurs through lots of factors. It just never occurs without some parental neglect or abuse. It's a learned behaviour. It's not innate. Children are not naturally extremely violent or sexual. It's learned through observation and exposure. And if the parents themselves don't teach it to children, they allow them to associate with peers and extended family members who do: and they do nothing to counter that learning.
Last edited by Lilahh; 20-07-2012 at 19:43.
ASPD isn't just nurture, it can be nature as well. I found this interesting
"What these two groups have in common is poor impulse control. This faculty relies on the part of the brain called the prefrontal cortex, most particularly the orbitofrontal cortex. It is known that lesions to this part of the brain impair planning, prediction of consequences, and inhibition of socially unacceptable behaviour – the cognitive mechanisms of “free won’t”, rather than free will. This brain region is also normally activated by aversive learning, and this activation is also reduced in psychopaths. In addition, both the prefrontal cortex and the amygdala show substantial average reductions in size in psychopaths, suggesting a structural difference in their brains."
Lots of people with ASPD lead normal lives, have families and jobs. I believe that the disorder is nature, but the difference between functioning people with ASPD and people that commit serious crimes with the disorder, is nurture.
So nature is the seed, but nurture is the water that grows the offender iykwim
You can't keep playing a blame game in life, everyone has the power to become whoever they want to be & at 18 they know what they are doing, he is completely and solely responsible for his actions and he should be punished for what he did. As they say if you can commit the crime you can do the time..
The poor guy that has lost his life and his family & friends who have lost their love one will never get him back, he was takin away by an awful person who has no care or respect for another human being, it disgusts me that some people try to make excuses for this kind of behavior!!!
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