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    Hmm, if it's user pays I'm for it, just like we pay high taxes in alcohol and smokes because they cost the community a lot of money, I think it's fair we pay for the waste we generate, ESPECIALLY if we have a chance to get some of that money back by recycling.

    I dont think it should be a tax based on income (article is a bit hard to understand?)

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    I think it's a good idea on paper but how would it work? I'm really not keen on having to drive somewhere sort out recycling to get my deposit back honestly if it works out to be $300 a year or less (we don't drink soft drink or alcohol regularly) then I'm not going to bother I will just continue to use my recycling bin at the house, I don't want to be storing recycling for weeks on end blerh!

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    We take all our bottles back already and get the money. I hope there isn't additional tax on top. Were in hot water on one wage as it is.

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    Do you have to take the bottles to a recycle centre for the refund? Isn't that flying in the face of the environment if you have to drive to recycle? Robbing paul to pay Peter! I can't imagine supermarkets wanting to deal with bottle refunds.

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    It's only really milk that most people buy. Other things I guess either suck it up or go without.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICanDream View Post
    Do you have to take the bottles to a recycle centre for the refund? Isn't that flying in the face of the environment if you have to drive to recycle? Robbing paul to pay Peter! I can't imagine supermarkets wanting to deal with bottle refunds.
    In Europe they have machines that accept them and give you cash at local shops and servos etc. it's really very simple. You throw em in your recycling bags when you go to do shopping. You get your refund and then your bags are empty to take your shopping home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renn View Post
    Because, for the most part, people don't walk around eating condiments/spreads from jars in public.
    The point isn't to encourage people to recycle at home where they already have recycling bins, but to ensure that businesses/individuals will go to the effort of recycling things that would otherwise be thrown away.
    Fair enough. That wasn't my understanding of it when reading the article. It seems silly to me to only do something half half but there you go.

    I know our local Council has the half bins for general refuse and half recycling (in main areas/parks - not everywhere yet) so again, when out and about, most people do the right thing.

    I just don't see how it will successfully be implemented and work.

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    I don't see how it will work. We have the recyling bin at home and I'm not going to hold onto empty bottles of milk to go and get the refund on. And we would use more on petrol to just get 10c from 1 bottle or 20c for 2 bottles of milk. The extra use of petrol to go and get the refund from wherever you have to go wouldn't be better for the environment either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renn View Post
    Because, for the most part, people don't walk around eating condiments/spreads from jars in public.
    The point isn't to encourage people to recycle at home where they already have recycling bins, but to ensure that businesses/individuals will go to the effort of recycling things that would otherwise be thrown away.
    They would be better off doing the filtered water that some areas do and encouraging re-filling of your water bottle while out. People don't go walking around with a 2L or 3L bottle of milk or juice either.

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    No you don't have to go to a recycle center. The supermarkets hold onto the crates that they get their softdrink bottles and beer bottles delivered in. People then bring back their empty bottles to the supermarket (not a recycle center) and get the money back from the supermarket.

    When you look at beer bottles, the return money stacks up quickly. We don't sell beer in cartons, but in crates of 24 bottles. On a full crate of 24 bottles, we're talking around $8,-
    Soft drink bottles are around 20 cents (in AUS$)
    Cans are around 10 cents ,,

    The large glass recycling containers (meant for ANYTHING glass and not just bottles) are located at shopping centers and in some high density suburbs (think Penrith).

    Again, we still have the green bin, red bin and recycle bin at home.

    If recycling at home was working so well, than why would the government think it is necessary to tax us more?
    Obviously the current "recycle at home" system can do with some improvement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bebehvala View Post
    In Europe they have machines that accept them and give you cash at local shops and servos etc. it's really very simple. You throw em in your recycling bags when you go to do shopping. You get your refund and then your bags are empty to take your shopping home.
    Thank you, you explained it a little bit better than yours truly lol!


 

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