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    Default Is QLD really the most homophobic state? We're thinking of moving up there?

    the following is taken from change.org

    Queensland law means killing someone isn't murder if the victim was gay and "came onto you" first... tell Campbell Newman to abolish it!

    “Yeah, I killed him, but he did worse to me.” These are the words of a man who reacted to some “gentle touching” from a gay man by ramming his victim’s head against a wall until he was unrecognisable, and then stabbing him to death [1].

    This infamous 1997 case enshrined the “gay panic” defence in Queensland law -- allowing accused murderers to have charges downgraded if their victim was gay and “came onto” them.

    Just two years ago, a man was brutally killed in Father Paul Kelly’s church yard, and his killer used this same defence. He was subsequently acquitted of murder [2].

    Father Paul was horrified that this argument was even allowed in court, and has launched a huge campaign to ensure it's abolished. Queensland's new Premier Campbell Newman, is yet to declare his personal position -- and a surge in pressure in the coming days may ensure the new government commits to finally ending the "gay panic" defence.

    26,000 people have already signed Father Paul’s petition, help him reach 40,000 signatures by Friday. Sign the petition now.

    A recent study named Queensland as Australia’s most homophobic state, and anti-gay violence is reportedly on the rise [3]. Laws like the “gay panic” defence are a crucial part of legitimising and reinforcing a culture which means that 73% of gay and lesbian Queenslanders are subjected to verbal abuse or physical violence for their sexuality [4].

    While fierce community opposition has convinced almost all other state governments to close similar loopholes, the outcry has fallen on deaf ears in Queensland. It’s now one of the last states upholding the idea that a person can be panicked enough by gay and lesbian people to justify murder. Thousands like Father Paul are fed up with the inaction -- it’s the perfect moment for the new Premier to take a stand and promise to close this "archaic" loophole.


    This could be the best chance Queensland will have for years to fix what law expert Alan Berman calls a “repulsive and dangerous partial defence”. If thousands of people speak out now, it will force Newman to commit to closing the loophole -- and take meaningful steps towards reducing discrimination and violence towards gay and lesbian people in Queensland.

    Stand with Father Paul and tell Campbell Newman this outdated “gay panic” law has no place in a modern society.



    [1] Courier Mail, October 6 2011, “Law says it's not murder if the victim is gay and "comes on to you" http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/o...PHE_NsETVapdmQ

    [2] Brisbane Times, “Men jailed over churchyard 'homosexual' bashing death”http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/quee...0513-v099.html

    [3] Anti-gay violence on the rise http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news...PHE_NsETVapdmQ

    Queensland Australia’s most homophobic state http://www.glhv.org.au/files/aust_in...PHE_NsETVapdmQ

    [4] Dr Alan Berman, legal expert and co-author of a study into homophobic violence in Queensland http://lgbtlawblog.blogspot.com/2010...PHE_NsETVapdmQ

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    I live in Townsville, have many gay friends, work for same sex parents, and work with gay people. Those views seem very uncommon here. I don't know what Brisbane is like, but up north it would horrify the public if that law was enforced. I'm shocked, saddened and sickened by that.

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    The government is the most homophobic government. I can't speak for the people though. I wouldn't live in QLD with the state government it currently has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainbow road View Post
    The government is the most homophobic government. I can't speak for the people though. I wouldn't live in QLD with the state government it currently has.
    I agree. Their recent stance on civil unions and surrogacy is evidence of that.

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    The current government is horribly homophobic (don't blame me, I didn't vote for them ) but the people (up here anyway) are not. Some guys "talk it up" when in certain places but get them alone and they are not like that really.

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    The previous Labor government was going to amend the Criminal Code to remove sexual advances being used as a partial defence (to reduce murder to manslaughter). The new LNP attorney general has announced they are not going to proceed with the amendments.

    It's just the last in a long line of moves against same sex people in Queensland - first they removed funding from a gay lobby/health group, then they amended and renamed the civil partnerships act, so gay (or straight) couples could only register relationships by filling out paperwork, rather than having a ceremony, and they are proposing changing the surrogacy act to exclude same sex couples, singles and de factos of less than 2 years.

    They have only been in government for about 100 days, but have found a lot of time to target the same sex population in Queensland in that time.

    My partner went to a seminar recently by another psychologist who works extensively with same sex clients, and he said that a lot of people are feeling really persecuted and awful right now, and it feels like a throw back to 20 years ago, except worse, as they briefly had these rights which have been quickly taken away.

    Anyway, do I think Queensland is homophobic? I think it's more conservative than the southern states, particularly regional Queensland where I grew up. And there are some very conservative elements in the government, and the opposition has been decimated so they can do whatever they want. Brisbane is better, of course.

    I don't know how it translates to living on a day to day basis though, as most people voted the new government in due to financial concerns and being sick of the former government, not due to social issues.

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    I live in Qld and have not known anyone in my 31 years who is homophobic... At least they've never said anything out loud etc.... I don't see why Qld would be any different from other states. Ignore government... Who pays attention to them anyway?

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    It's hard to "ignore government" when they stop you marrying someone you love or they can be responsible for some a-hole killing you because they hate you for being gay and can get away with it by saying "they came onto me"...

    I wouldn't want to live there with a government like that. They're supposed to represent the people, if they do, the people think that way too. If they don't, it's a messed up state where the government don't represent the people! Either way, super scary.

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    Obviously out of my realm of knowledge then, I didn't realise it was legal to married on some states but not here... I don't pay any attention to government or rules and regs, and I'm not gay, so I will but out of the conversation now :-)

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    My vote goes to SA being the most homophobic.

    My dp and I are currently fighting BDM to have her on our DDs birth certificate. The law is that you must of lived together three years prior to conception regardless of the length of your relationship. So because we kept title of two houses during our relationship my daughter has a birth certificate saying "Father not stated"

    The fact we stravelled interstate and spent thousands of dollars and went through mandatory counseling means **** all,

    As far as I know all other states don't have this?


 

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