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    Quote Originally Posted by 4underfour View Post
    I am amazed at how some of our most avid 'non vaxxers' on here would vax selectively for pertussis. Why? is that because it is rampant? Or severe? All of the vpd's can be life threatening, and they all have the potential to become prevalent yet again.
    Who are these avid non vaxxers? I don't think I've ever read a post trying to convince others not to vaccinate their children. Merely expressing that it's a personal choice. (Yes, choice, in this country, for now). As for singling out a vax one feels is important. I would assume that family has done a personal risk assessment and feel that, for their child, the benefits of that particular vaccine may outweigh the perceived risks. Don't forget that this risk assessment is often done in conjunction with a health care professional, not off A Current Affair reports and questionable websites.

    There is a real undercurrent of contempt here for those that don't fit a neat box. There are so many reasons why one may not vaccinate - all accepted by the Australian government - yet not by many of you as individuals.

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    I'm not making out like you are stupid - I am making out like you obviously have no idea how common complications with measles are. Which is true and very evident by your post.

    I'm not blaming you either - fine don't vax, I could care less - but to come onto a forum - spouting stuff about not vaccine and how catching the disease is preferable, well all I can say is, I wish you would do some research.

    PS- just so you know, measles can cause complications in anyone - not just immune compromised or *sickly* people.



    kids. If my child was in the risk category and more likely to have complications then yes it would be different. But for my family, my child, with her system, catching it would be preferrable to the vaccine. Don't make out like I am stupid. And enough with the blame.[/QUOTE]

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    Born to be, how many times have we on this forum seen a thread started like "I don't want to vax because I don't want my baby to catch Autism"

    Sorry - not much research going into that train of thinking I'm afraid.

    There are two types of non vaxxers, those that have done some serious research and have come to the conclusion not to vax. I still don't agree with the choice - but at least they have researched.

    And then there are those - like the girl on catylist the other day who said "My neighbours daughter caught Down syndrome from vaccinations". Those are the ones I post for - those are the ones I put statistics up for. If you are going to make a decision as big as that - then at least know what the heck you are talking about.

    Quote Originally Posted by BornToBe View Post
    Who are these avid non vaxxers? I don't think I've ever read a post trying to convince others not to vaccinate their children. Merely expressing that it's a personal choice. (Yes, choice, in this country, for now). As for singling out a vax one feels is important. I would assume that family has done a personal risk assessment and feel that, for their child, the benefits of that particular vaccine may outweigh the perceived risks. Don't forget that this risk assessment is often done in conjunction with a health care professional, not off A Current Affair reports and questionable websites.

    There is a real undercurrent of contempt here for those that don't fit a neat box. There are so many reasons why one may not vaccinate - all accepted by the Australian government - yet not by many of you as individuals.

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    for people who don't vax..or select..if everyone is oz (or worldwide) stopped vaxing..would you be concerned?

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    I have done the research. I said for MY child, it would be preferable. That is all. Anyway, she has had it, so saying fine then don't vax shows you are half reading then making assumption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander Beetle View Post
    I vax actually. My point was if she wants to go around throwing blame, I could just as easily say that she should stay home if she gets so sick, so easily. And this was in reference to her comments that mothers who go to work with sick children are selfish. I'm responding to that and that only because I think that is a horrible thing to say and bl00dy ignorant.
    I kind of read that post more from the slant of "society needs to do more to support ill people to stay home and stop spreading sickness" more so than "it's your fault if you go out sick!". The sad fact is employers value bucks above people, the government prefers tax to personal health, and we as individuals are the losers in that hierarchy of values that we don't all necessarily agree with. I tend to think it all comes back to devaluing the role of the stay at home parent - if there were adequate support to be at home with the kids, mum or dad or grandparent or whoever, there'd be that ability to recover fully at home without the need to spread illness through compulsory work/school attendance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    Born to be, how many times have we on this forum seen a thread started like "I don't want to vax because I don't want my baby to catch Autism"

    Sorry - not much research going into that train of thinking I'm afraid.

    There are two types of non vaxxers, those that have done some serious research and have come to the conclusion not to vax. I still don't agree with the choice - but at least they have researched.

    And then there are those - like the girl on catylist the other day who said "My neighbours daughter caught Down syndrome from vaccinations". Those are the ones I post for - those are the ones I put statistics up for. If you are going to make a decision as big as that - then at least know what the heck you are talking about.
    Absolutely agree. Same goes for all major decisions, birth choices, pregnancy choices, parenting choices et al.

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    Born to be, how many times have we on this forum seen a thread started like "I don't want to vax because I don't want my baby to catch Autism"
    I've been on BH since 2005 and I have never seen that.

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    For those who say 'most' adults arent up to date with their vaccinations, do you actually have any stats to back that up? All my friends are (apart from those who are non-vaxxers by choice). I think saying 'most' arent up to date is a big stretch.

    My MIL has a heart condition so she cant be vaccinated. Im 2 minds about this. I do believe in peoples right to make their own decisions with their children, but choosing not to vax does affect innocent people like my MIL by putting their health at risk. I really dont know what I think about it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maybelline View Post
    for people who don't vax..or select..if everyone is oz (or worldwide) stopped vaxing..would you be concerned?
    I am always concerned, as a delayed vaxer of course, as im sure you would be with your to schedule vaxxed kids? but just as I did not " run out" and get DS the dtap vaccine when whooping cough was at its peak in 2010 I just worked harder looking after my child's immune system , being extra careful when we were out and making sure all the adults in his life were up to date with boosters, and as my GP said at the time when he was telling me yes he has had a few of his patients with whooping cough in his surgery he also admitted when I asked the question were all these kids vaccinated and the answer was yes, which probably is why I get annoyed with some who assume their kids are fool proof just because they are vaxxed ( especially for pertussis as we all know the current vaccine does not cover this new strain) I wish some of the vaxxers were more educated in watching out for symptoms of these diseases in their kids who are passing it on
    Again, I am lucky, I have a village ( mum, sister, and 2 SIL who can look after DS anytime) I don't need daycare/pre school which by the sounds of the previous posts are where all the sick kids hang out!
    So yes, obviously I will watch out for measles but no I will not run out and get the vax until we are ready, yes it can be harmful which is why I am diligent in keeping my son healthy and being over cautious if he looks like he is even getting a sniffle

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