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    That is what I was thinking!

    And, why is it that whenever anyone disagrees with novaxxers someone always calls for the thread to be closed down? And it usually is?

    Are we not all adults here? Can we not have differences of opinions and still keep a thread open? I think this thread has been rather interesting myself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smartiecat View Post
    "rolls eyes" how is this thread just another go at those who choose not to vacc??? The thread title and op calls people who disagree with non vacc ignorant.
    I do agree this will end badly and much like every other non vacc thread.

    The only thing I have to say on the subject is this ... Please remember it isnot only newborns who are at risk of these diseases ... Sick and elderly, immune suppressed (people who have had transplants, cancer patients) are prob at more risk than a newborn who can be vaccd

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    Wow - only just had a chance to finish reading through 5 pages.

    Im certainly not trying to have a go at anyone that does or doesn't vax. I was more just amazed at how blatantly ignorant the FB post was.

    To label anyone who doesn't vax as selfish is a very generalized attack. Some of the comments and responses were even worse. One even mentioned something along the lines of "survival of the fittest" referring to newborn babies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Bboys View Post
    One even mentioned something along the lines of "survival of the fittest" referring to newborn babies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsImpatient View Post

    If I made a choice to vaccinate, and my child was the one in a million, would I ever recover from that? If in 20 years, they turn around and say 'oh that vaccination we were using for the last 30 years, we are recalling it cause it increases the chance of X cancer 50 fold', I would be devastated.
    ........................

    How do you put your faith so deeply in the system? How do you deal with the fact that your child could be that one in a million? Or do you just not think about it and just say 'it won't happen to me?'
    If you decided not to vaccinate, and lost a 6 month old baby to WC, what then? The chances are higher of this happening than being that 1 in 1000000 that has an acute reaction. If 30 years from know they suddenly decided vaxxing increased a cancer risk, I'd be surprised. I would imagine they would know well before then. Some vaccines have been 10 years + in their development. But even if it did happen, you would know you acted on the best available information.

    For the second part I quoted- I hear what you are saying, I do. This is not e decision to take lightly but I firmly believe we have to go with the most accurate information that we have NOW. Right now, we know beyond doubt that vaccines have reduced and or eradicated serious illnesses in this, and other, countries. The evidence is overwhelming. I know that by vaccinating I am doing what is best for my child going off all current scientific information. There is no logical reason for the govt to encourage dangerous vaccinations. Imagine the ramifications for them if vaccines were unsafe. It doesn't make sense.

    All the best with your decision and hugs to your puppy- I'm a fur mummy too

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    That is what I was thinking!

    And, why is it that whenever anyone disagrees with novaxxers someone always calls for the thread to be closed down? And it usually is?

    Are we not all adults here? Can we not have differences of opinions and still keep a thread open? I think this thread has been rather interesting myself.
    And rather bl00dy civil too I thought!

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    I'm still waiting for references for the research others have done to support not vaxxing.

    I'm pregnant with my first and i am sincerely interested. As a researcher myself, i don't consider n = 1 and anecdotal info (ie 'I know someone whose child developed x problem around the time of the vax') to be research nor of any use for helping me make my decision (as sorry as I am for the family's situation).

    But any peer reviewed articles you could cite or link me to would be very helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABigDeepBreath View Post
    I'm still waiting for references for the research others have done to support not vaxxing.

    I'm pregnant with my first and i am sincerely interested. As a researcher myself, i don't consider n = 1 and anecdotal info (ie 'I know someone whose child developed x problem around the time of the vax') to be research nor of any use for helping me make my decision (as sorry as I am for the family's situation).

    But any peer reviewed articles you could cite or link me to would be very helpful.
    I'm not one to just do as I am told, so being told to delay/selectively vax was the same to me as being told I had to vax. I didn't just do it, I researched first. After looking into it, I decided it made sense, so I probably would have done it anyway. However, that was 9 years ago! I can't remember what I read last week, much less be able to tell you about something from 2003! However, you are free to make appointments with highly trained sprcialists and get information like I did. It will cost, specialists are expensive. But it is an option for you.

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    So am I, but I think we'll be waiting a long time. I have been on this site since 2006 and have asked over and over again, not on thing has ever been produced!

    Quote Originally Posted by ABigDeepBreath View Post
    I'm still waiting for references for the research others have done to support not vaxxing.

    I'm pregnant with my first and i am sincerely interested. As a researcher myself, i don't consider n = 1 and anecdotal info (ie 'I know someone whose child developed x problem around the time of the vax') to be research nor of any use for helping me make my decision (as sorry as I am for the family's situation).

    But any peer reviewed articles you could cite or link me to would be very helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by share a book View Post
    I'm not one to just do as I am told, so being told to delay/selectively vax was the same to me as being told I had to vax. I didn't just do it, I researched first. After looking into it, I decided it made sense, so I probably would have done it anyway. However, that was 9 years ago! I can't remember what I read last week, much less be able to tell you about something from 2003! However, you are free to make appointments with highly trained sprcialists and get information like I did. It will cost, specialists are expensive. But it is an option for you.
    I recall that you had medical reasons for this decision. I guess I'm wondering about those who decided against vaxxing when no medical issues were present.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABigDeepBreath View Post
    I recall that you had medical reasons for this decision. I guess I'm wondering about those who decided against vaxxing when no medical issues were present.
    Yes, but I would have still looked into it, and likely come to the same conclusion.


 

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