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    I think it is irresponsible to promote the 'co-sleeping is not safe' message as it makes people think they shouldn't do it so they don't plan for it and when they are exhausted and just 'fall into it' it is unsafe. There should be an education program on safe co-sleeping so people can make an educated choice that is safe and works for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMF View Post
    Sorry, I didn't mean to pick on your post, but you so nicely summed up the ideas being thrown about in this thread that I am having trouble with.



    Yes, they also provide guidelines on what to avoid while co-sleeping to reduce the risks. As they have done with cot sleeping, so you point out. So why is everyone still banging on about co-sleeping? I don't see everyone waggling their fingers at cot-sleeping and saying "there are risks, therefore you shouldn't do it, therefore you are irresponsible".
    Go back and read my posts, I already mentioned there are guidelines for safe co-sleeping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luvmyboys View Post
    They also provide guidelines for safe co-sleeping see more below


    Which is related to my comment how?



    They have issued a blanket statement which does not take into account the difference between an educated co-sleeper and an uneducated one to minimise the overall risk.
    One of the issues is 'reactive co-sleepers' as they do not plan to co-sleep and when they do it can be much more dangerous as they are uneducated on the risk factors and do not have a well prepared environment. I think that personally you should take their advice, doesn't mean an educated co-sleeper has to .
    Reading another thread regarding whether people fell into co-sleeping, its quite obvious most people don't research and make an educated decision to co-sleep. They fall into it out of exhuastion, to make it easier to bf, so they don't have to get in and out of bed all night. It's all well and good to defend yourselfs by saying your all educated but then you can't say in other threads you were forced by your child to co-sleep 'because they wouldn't sleep unless on you, its easier and you liked it' They aren't educated reasons for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luvmyboys View Post
    I think it is irresponsible to promote the 'co-sleeping is not safe' message as it makes people think they shouldn't do it so they don't plan for it and when they are exhausted and just 'fall into it' it is unsafe. There should be an education program on safe co-sleeping so people can make an educated choice that is safe and works for them.
    There are guidelines for safe co-sleeping, I've mentioned that a million times. Read the sids and kids website, they do educate parents how to do it safely if thats what you choose to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily of the Nile View Post
    Reading another thread regarding whether people fell into co-sleeping, its quite obvious most people don't research and make an educated decision to co-sleep. They fall into it out of exhuastion, to make it easier to bf, so they don't have to get in and out of bed all night. It's all well and good to defend yourselfs by saying your all educated but then you can't say in other threads you were forced by your child to co-sleep 'because they wouldn't sleep unless on you, its easier and you liked it' They aren't educated reasons for me.
    Just because someone fell into co sleeping doesn't automatically mean it wasn't an educated process and isn't done safely it just means it wasn't planned from the get go

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thermolicious View Post
    Just because someone fell into co sleeping doesn't automatically mean it wasn't an educated process and isn't done safely it just means it wasn't planned from the get go
    THIS

    I didn't 'plan' on it either but it didn't take long to see it was what I was meant to be doing and you bet your @rse that I did my research and made sure it was done properly. If there wasn't such a culture in the western world that you don't sleep with your babies then people would be more prepared from the get go and I think we would find there were LESS accidental deaths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily of the Nile View Post
    There are guidelines for safe co-sleeping, I've mentioned that a million times. Read the sids and kids website, they do educate parents how to do it safely if thats what you choose to do.
    And then some fool comes along and says it is dangerous full stop

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    Quote Originally Posted by lambjam View Post
    I find this very difficult to believe. Death by asphyxiation would be easy to establish.

    A dead baby is still dead whether it has died from SIDS or a car accident, however no-one would ever suggest that the two are linked.
    Without going into the details, there is some commonality between post mortem findings in deaths from SIDS and asphyxiation, not to mention he fact that they both occur in sleep spaces (whether that happens to be the parent's bed or not). Car accident related deaths happen in cars and usually from trauma. Bit different.

    However, I just wanted to emphasise the point that what we all want is to have our babies healthy, happy, and *alive*. If we can do that by being informed by objective evidence rather than gut feelings or unsupported opinions, so much the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luvmyboys View Post
    I didn't 'plan' on it either but it didn't take long to see it was what I was meant to be doing and you bet your @rse that I did my research and made sure it was done properly.
    This is me to.

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    Is anyone actually reading lily of the nile's posts? She isn't saying you shouldn't co-sleep, she is saying if you do you should follow guidelines. Why is that bad? What is so bad about guidelines? They have them for *everything*. Sometimes I think that some of you see attacks on your choices when there really isn't any.

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