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    I can't believe the paranoia rampant in this thread! "Monsters lurking in public toilets"?! I think it's a huge problem of modern society that people are living in fear like that.

    When my son is able to look after his own toileting and is comfortable/asks to go into the men's toilet, he'll be allowed to! I presume that's about 6-7 or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmyB View Post
    I can't believe the paranoia rampant in this thread! "Monsters lurking in public toilets"?! I think it's a huge problem of modern society that people are living in fear like that.

    When my son is able to look after his own toileting and is comfortable/asks to go into the men's toilet, he'll be allowed to! I presume that's about 6-7 or so.
    It's not paranoia if it happens. We live in the stocks but the nearest 'big' town (50,000odd) had numerous kids approached/assaulted in the public toilets of a shopping centre a couple of years ago.

    I would prefer to have my kid safe and a bit embarrassed about going to the toilet with me then being approached/assaulted/traumatised because of some weirdo in the toilet.

    Standing outside the men's toilet doesn't ensure they are safe, how do you know someone isn't already in the toilet waiting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmyB View Post
    I can't believe the paranoia rampant in this thread! "Monsters lurking in public toilets"?! I think it's a huge problem of modern society that people are living in fear like that.

    When my son is able to look after his own toileting and is comfortable/asks to go into the men's toilet, he'll be allowed to! I presume that's about 6-7 or so.
    Paranoia? Before you start throwing around words like that, maybe you should get some facts and statistics about the amount of assaults on young children who are unsupervised in public toilets.

    I wouldn't allow my sons or daughter to go into a public toilet unsupervised before the age of 11/12.

    My DS1 had a school friend assaulted in a public toilet when he was 8. It's not as uncommon as some people may think.

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    I can't believe the paranoia rampant in this thread! "Monsters lurking in public toilets"?! I think it's a huge problem of modern society that people are living in fear like that.
    It's not paranoia....It does happen and it isn't hard to take all my children to the disable toilet...or have my oldest just let me know if there is anyone else in the mens when he goes in. It doesn't take anything away from our lives so its fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmyB View Post
    I can't believe the paranoia rampant in this thread! "Monsters lurking in public toilets"?! I think it's a huge problem of modern society that people are living in fear like that.

    When my son is able to look after his own toileting and is comfortable/asks to go into the men's toilet, he'll be allowed to! I presume that's about 6-7 or so.
    Sadly it happens all too often. It's not about being paranoid, it's about protecting your child.
    I'm pretty sure someone posted something a little while ago about a girl whose father sent her into the toilets and waited outside for her and there was someone waiting in there.
    Correct me if I'm wrong but I think she may have actually been killed?
    Not worth the risk.

    http://mobile.news.com.au/top-stories/sofias-killer-jailed-for-life-over-toilet-murder/story-e6frfkp9-1111114822414

    http://edition.cnn.com/US/9811/16/boy.killed.02/

    Stupid link!
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    Quote Originally Posted by EmyB View Post
    I can't believe the paranoia rampant in this thread! "Monsters lurking in public toilets"?! I think it's a huge problem of modern society that people are living in fear like that.

    When my son is able to look after his own toileting and is comfortable/asks to go into the men's toilet, he'll be allowed to! I presume that's about 6-7 or so.
    I think disrespecting valid parenting choices is a huge problem of modern society but whatevs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by EmyB View Post
    I can't believe the paranoia rampant in this thread! "Monsters lurking in public toilets"?! I think it's a huge problem of modern society that people are living in fear like that.

    When my son is able to look after his own toileting and is comfortable/asks to go into the men's toilet, he'll be allowed to! I presume that's about 6-7 or so.
    Unfortunately I'm going to have to disagree with you too.

    I come from a family of Police Officers (brother, 2 x cousins, uncle and grandfather - I would have been one too, but had to leave for medical reasons), and it is one thing that we emphasize with ALL the kids in our family - boys and girls. NEVER go to a public toilet on your own. Even if they are high school age we tell them to go with a friend. It is incredibly scary the amount of assaults that occur in public restrooms. Even the number of children that are approached in restrooms is high. It's just not worth the risk.

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    I'm not denying that it HAPPENS. Of course tragic things happen all the time. It's just I believe the risk is waaaaaaay less than what you guys do, obviously. I'm not going to stop my son riding his bike/walking on footpaths/swimming/going for baths/climbing trees/being a passenger in a car etc etc because of some minuscule risk of something bad happening.

    I believe strongly in building resilience in my children, allowing them to be independent when they want to be, allowing calculated risks i.e. not wrapping them in cotton wool, and not being a helicopter parent. And as part of that philosophy, I won't be holding their hands in public loos until they are in high school.

    And if anyone actually HAS "statistics" on this I'd be interested to hear them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmyB View Post
    I can't believe the paranoia rampant in this thread! "Monsters lurking in public toilets"?! I think it's a huge problem of modern society that people are living in fear like that.

    When my son is able to look after his own toileting and is comfortable/asks to go into the men's toilet, he'll be allowed to! I presume that's about 6-7 or so.
    It is not paranoia it is a realistic view of the world. In 2006 a girl was assaulted and killed in a shopping centre toilet in Perth. Her siblings and father went in the check on he after a few minutes but it was too late. I am willing to give my kids freedom but will not under any circumstances put them in that kind of situation. Leaving them alone in a toilet cubicle with unknown men is a huge risk IMO and one that I will avoid as long as I have control over it.

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    it's the risk/cost/benefit.

    bike riding, climbing trees, getting dirty = high benefit, low cost, low risk. they might fall and break their arms but we can deal with that.

    going to the toilet alone. easily dealt with. low risk. huge consequences. odds are my child will not get raped. and yes higher risk they'll be assaulted by a trusted family member or friend. but it costs me nothing to take him with me.

    your analysis may be different and that's okay too.

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