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    Quote Originally Posted by Benji View Post
    No what I didn't appreciate is the implication that parents who don't do X are putting their kids at risk. There is no risk if you stand outside the cubicle. Seriously. I think you will notice an attacker climbing over/under the cubicle. If you want to go into the cubicle with them that is fine - but expecting that others should - yep - WTF?!

    Like Ana though I did go in with him or left the door open until recently for gross reasons lol.

    The biggest risk we take is getting into the car with our kids. And having male relatives and friends. Children are far more likely to be assaulted by someone known to them. I'm sick of all of the victim blaming when it comes to s3xual assault and s3xual predators.
    Benji, I totally appreciate your anger. But it didnt read like that..
    It read as if you were making fun of those that do need to go in to a cubicle.

    No one should judge anyone else unless they come in here and say..
    I dont care if my kid gets attacked.

    NO ONE here is inviting anyone in or being overly cautious.
    Its just different parenting, cant we just accept that?

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    Personally I can. I'd be mighty hurt and feel betrayed if my DP had a go at me and acted like I had acted irresponsibly for allowing DS to pee alone with me outside the cubicle (as was mentioned by PP). Lots of people have mentioned 'risks' etc when letting children go to the toilet alone. I think it's nobody's business how, when or why our children empty their bladder/bowel.

    I don't give a shiz if people go into the cubicle with their little one. I don't see why people care what others do. It's toileting, it shouldn't be this difficult to grasp that everybody is different.

    Yikes, I just realised how irresponsible I really am. Sometimes I pee in the cubicle next to DS while he's peeing.

    My intention wasn't to make fun of anyone for being in a cubicle with their LO, I'm pretty tired of it being the other way around really and I do take DS into the women's.

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    Benji I agree. I was thinking before of what I deem 'risks' due to my mother's, many family members and friends experience with sexual abuse. If I said I thought people who left their children with uncles, fathers, brothers, priests, venturer leaders and older boys were putting their child at risk people would be very mad. Yet it's common knowledge that these are much more dangerous situations. I, like you, couldn't care at all whether people go in with their child, I do with mine. But I sure as h3ll take offence to people being so high and mighty at those who choose to do otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander Beetle View Post
    So now people who let there children use the toilet unsupervised are putting their children at 'risk' or uneducated? My oh my.
    Isn't the point of this forum open discussion and voicing of opinions? You asked a direct question. In my opinion, I do believe that children using public bathrooms alone are at risk. As do many other people. That is a valid opinion and an answer to your question. As previously mentioned I know someone who was attacked as a child so as rare as it may be, I know it can happen.

    I dont think anyone on here has told anyone else what to do with their own child. Almost every person has said each to their own and respects that every parent can make their own choices for their own child.

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    Yes there have been comment from other parents saying that parents would be to blame for ignoring the 'risks'. Not you, but others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander Beetle View Post
    Yes there have been comment from other parents saying that parents would be to blame for ignoring the 'risks'. Not you, but others.
    I've seen it, too.

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    Dont for get it started with a pp threw in "paranoia".

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    I haven't read all the replies but I have no idea when DS will go to the men's room by himself. Probably the day he refuses to use the disabled toilet after he has refused to go in the ladies any more.

    I used to think I'd be happy for any of my kids to use a public rest room in a shopping centre by themselves by the time they were ending primary school...and then last year a 13 year old girl went to a public toilet in the middle of the day in a busy shopping centre that I go to regularly and was brutally raped. Her mum was halfway through the grocery shopping, she needed to go so the mum told her to go and meet her back at the supermarket and the man who raped her saw her go in the toilet by herself and followed her.
    Now I have no idea. I'm not comfortable with it at all, ever. I'm even uneasy going in to a quiet public toilet by myself these days. I've heard too many stories for me to chalk it up to something that doesn't really happen very often.

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    I agreed that parents were partly to blame if they ignore real risks that have serious consequences. We have seven year old kids walking around the streets in our neighborhood and without parent supervision in shopping centres. Kids turn up at our doorstep without their parents wanting to play with my kids weekly. I don't know these kids or their parents. There are real risks associated with giving kids that kind of freedom as they cannot assess situations for themselves and I do think parents are partly to blame for putting young children in those types of situations. This is my opinion and you are free to yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennybaby View Post
    I agreed that parents were partly to blame if they ignore real risks that have serious consequences. We have seven year old kids walking around the streets in our neighborhood and without parent supervision in shopping centres. Kids turn up at our doorstep without their parents wanting to play with my kids weekly. I don't know these kids or their parents. There are real risks associated with giving kids that kind of freedom as they cannot assess situations for themselves and I do think parents are partly to blame for putting young children in those types of situations. This is my opinion and you are free to yours.
    Considering the majority of sexual abuse is by friends and family, am I able to say I believe you are putting your child at risk by letting them play sport? Or join a church? I can then say you are partly to blame if an uncle does something because you let them go over to his house?

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