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    Quote Originally Posted by Clementine Grace View Post
    Yes they are. The risk is there, its not an urban legend. Ask any police officer if they let their child go into a public bathroom unsupervised.

    If you supervise your children in a public bathroom, you take away the risk, simple.
    Poppycock and fiddlesticks! So going by your argument letting your kids climb trees without harnesses, go to sleepovers at friends houses (at ANY AGE), etc etc is being a negligent, uneducated parent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmyB View Post
    Poppycock and fiddlesticks! So going by your argument letting your kids climb trees without harnesses, go to sleepovers at friends houses (at ANY AGE), etc etc is being a negligent, uneducated parent.
    Comparing climbing a tree to exposing a child to strangers in a public bathroom is a stretch. It is also my opinion, you don't have to agree. If you want to let your kid go into a public bathroom alone, that is your choice.

    Ask any child survivor who has been attacked if they wish someone had been there to protect them. Each to their own, horses for courses. I'll personally take the advice of an experienced police officer and a person who has been attacked as child in a public bathroom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmyB View Post
    Poppycock and fiddlesticks! So going by your argument letting your kids climb trees without harnesses, go to sleepovers at friends houses (at ANY AGE), etc etc is being a negligent, uneducated parent.
    i actually don't see any logic in this argument, we're not talking about climbing trees and sleepovers.

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    As parents we have the massive responsibilty of making the best possible decisions we can for these precious creatures we call our children. I think that most people do a pretty darn good job of it too.

    If a sicko harms a child (or anyone) in a public toilet IT IS COMPLETELY THE FAULT OF THE SICKO! To say otherwise is similar to saying a woman deserves to be S.exually A.ssaulted because she was in the wrong place at the wrong time or because of what she was wearing. I am one that doesn't let even my 12 year old go to public toilets alone but I hardly think parents that do are failing their duty of care.

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    I didn't say it was the fault of the parent if something awful happened. The statement was "putting a child at risk". I think (as do a lot of others it seems) it is a risk to let a child use a public bathroom unsupervised, but as i said, horses for courses. A choice every parent is able to make for themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clementine Grace View Post

    Ask any child survivor who has been attacked if they wish someone had been there to protect them. Each to their own, horses for courses. I'll personally take the advice of an experienced police officer and a person who has been attacked as child in a public bathroom.
    I know sadly too many survivors if child sexual abuse. Indeed they do all wish someone was there to protect them. Not one attack was by a random in a public toilet.

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    Sorry Clementine, I mostly had VicPark's post in mind.

    I'm in two minds. If I didn't go in with my child and something happened, I know *I* would blame myself

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander Beetle View Post
    I know sadly too many survivors if child sexual abuse. Indeed they do all wish someone was there to protect them. Not one attack was by a random in a public toilet.
    Again, as previously stated, if a Police Officer with 30 years experience has told me he has witnessed numerous accounts of random attacks on children in public bathrooms, i will take his word for it. He also could not tell us strongly enough, never to let our child go into a bathroom unsupervised. Personally, that's all i need to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Refresh View Post
    Sorry Clementine, I mostly had VicPark's post in mind.

    I'm in two minds. If I didn't go in with my child and something happened, I know *I* would blame myself
    No need for apologies Me too, i would blame myself forever. All for the sake of taking them to the disabled bathroom, it's just so easy to prevent, i don't really understand the resistance to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clementine Grace View Post
    Again, as previously stated, if a Police Officer with 30 years experience has told me he has witnessed numerous accounts of random attacks on children in public bathrooms, i will take his word for it. He also could not tell us strongly enough, never to let our child go into a bathroom unsupervised. Personally, that's all i need to know.
    That's great for you. When it comes to sexual abuse my concerns are different. Do watch you like. But maybe refrain from telling people they are putting their kids at 'risk'. Everyone judges risk differently.

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