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    cigarettes and formula are the same?
    Jaysus...that is pushing the boundaries...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etienne View Post

    ETA: I'm not saying people shouldn't have access to it either what I'm saying is go buy it yourself. Yes the hospital supplies food etc but if I want cigarettes they aren't going to supply them are they.
    Food- vital for life.
    Cigarettes- not vital for life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    My hospital provides cloth nappies not disposables, cheap one-style suits for bub and hospital grade blankets. The difference is I'd there is a choice of two options (cloth nappy/disposable, breast/formula) should the taxpayer pay for you to chose the most expensive option?
    I would not think that there are many women who "choose" formula.
    I do think if its something you know you want to do, then yes supply your own....but for most women, formula is not a luxury choice, it is purely all they can do if breastfeeding is not working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lambjam View Post
    I'm happy to accept that cigarettes are a luxury, as I'm happy to accept that disposable nappies, red wine, and the various lotions and potions provided in some hospitals are luxuries. But the provision of basic nutrition is not a luxury .
    Formula is a luxury for those capable of breastfeeding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by share a book View Post
    Formula is a luxury for those capable of breastfeeding.
    is it?

    thats a very very broad statement.

    and who decided who is capable and who isnt.

    can we go round squeezing nipples to see if milk comes out and then charge her for formula?

    Can I have that job??

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    Quote Originally Posted by share a book View Post
    Formula is a luxury for those capable of breastfeeding.
    Formula is a luxury...hmm now I have heard everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by share a book View Post
    Formula is a luxury for those capable of breastfeeding.
    Really? Has this not been done to death? That your definition of "capable" is going to be completely different to someone else's, that you cannot possibly hold another woman accountable to your standards, and that everyone needs to back the hell away from how other people feed their children?

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    Quote Originally Posted by share a book View Post
    Formula is a luxury for those capable of breastfeeding.
    Food is a right, not a luxury and should be provided to those who cannot source it themselves (babies).
    Especially when one is under the care of government funded health institutions.
    Breast is best, but no one has the right to force someone to breastfeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by share a book View Post
    Formula is a luxury for those capable of breastfeeding.
    But who is judging capability?

    Are we advocating that women should not be allowed to judge their own capability, and must be told what they should do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lambjam View Post
    Technically it's not free. The mother requires extra calories, which the hospital provides in the form of her meals.

    If we want to get really petty, maybe we could reduce the portion sizes for formula feeding mothers .
    Yes petty alright.
    If a mother chooses to FF from birth (not talking about feeding difficulties) then she should be prepared to pay for it.
    Having formula readily available IMO just encourages parents to give up easily. I won't even listen to the midwives in the local hospital because of the "just use formula" comments from them. How unsupportive and confusing for new mothers.
    If you're having trouble feeding and can't continue you should be given support and yes have it supplied but if choose to do it straight away then be prepared to pay for it.


 
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