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    I think in theory it might have some merit with there being a shortage of public housing. I think though, if they make people share, they need to put thought into who. For eg. you wouldn't expect a mother with two children to share with a single male they don't know. But perhaps if they have singles living in a house together that would work? A lot of single people live in shared housing (not in public housing) i have, because i couldn't afford to live on my own.

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    I dont think share housing is the best idea but I def agree with making people moving into smaller places.Why should someone living alone get a big 3-4 bedroom house when there are families in dire need of a place??
    Sorry but if you have lived in state housing for 20 plus years,you have had a pretty good ride!!

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    I am interested in how this would work for centrelink reasons ie these days wether you are female or male if you live with the same/opposite sex you may be considered as being in an relationship with that person so for alot of people they will not only have the issue of sharing a house with someone they do not know but also proving that they are not in any form of relationship (as this could lead to defrauding the centrelink system as well down track). And as for moving people into smaller units etc they havent even got the supply they need to meet their current needs it is well known (especially in NSW) that one bedroom units etc are as rare as hens teeth so its a joke that they even put that as one of the options at the moment!

    What they need to do is put more money into building units/apartments then relocate people, also perhaps in the instance of elderly people ensure that a set of units are only occupied by certain age groups (not every set of units but certain ones so they are more comfortable).

    Unfortunately alot of people outside government housing believe that residents are paying minimum rent when most people are paying market rent (there is no such thing as minimum rent) for instance a friend of mine went to put her name down on the public waiting list and was told where she is now renting is cheaper then what she would be paying if she had a public housing house (she is a single mum of one).

    Another thing that i find annoying is that there are those in public housing that trash their houses and are given chance after chance (personally whether or not they have children) they should be given limited warnings (then thrown out) and then risk losing their kids as its not fair to those in public housing that do the right thing!

    Oops edited it to add that if it can happen in QLD it can happen elsewhere in Australia!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimberleygal1 View Post
    My dad whom has been living in the same house for 25yrs in a small town is being evicted. Mum was intending to buy the house just prior to her dying unexpectedly 12yrs ago. Everyone in town knows my dad and many call in with meals etc and make sure he is ok etc. the housing commission say he will be moving anytime between the next few weeks to 3mths and he can nominate 3 places he would like to go. He is quite devastated at the prospect of leaving the town he has called home all these years and his friends. The housing commission are apparently selling all the houses in the town and there are a lot of elderly people in the same boat as my dad. They didn't advise him their intentions mind you, I rang them on his behalf to enquire why the lounge room hadn't been finished being painted and so they told me. The letter he got following this didn't mention anything about the possibility of him sharing with anyone. He is on a disability pension too and the house he is in is set up with ramps, rails etc. he will be in a wheelchair eventually. I am quite anxious to see where they move him and just hope he will adjust and meet new friends and be ok, hope he doesn't go downhill because of it!
    That's not cool, your dad having to move towns because the governments decided not to have public housing there anymore. Tightar$es!

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    Quote Originally Posted by *Chels* View Post
    I dont think share housing is the best idea but I def agree with making people moving into smaller places.Why should someone living alone get a big 3-4 bedroom house when there are families in dire need of a place??
    Sorry but if you have lived in state housing for 20 plus years,you have had a pretty good ride!!
    My father lost his ability to work all those years ago after an accident. He didn't ask to be in the situation he is in, being that he lives on a pittance being the diability pension meaning he would never be able to afford to rent privately. He sure as hell hasn't had a good ride thankyou very much!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myztiks#1Fan View Post
    I had termites. Only reason they were discovered was because i oaid for pest control. Housing only replaced the bare minimum that they had to.

    I waited 2mths for my oven to get fixed. I have waited 1wk to fet a my toilet fixed several times. I had floorboards at my front door rot away and i had to wait about 4mths to get them fixed even though theu were a danger to myself, my child, visitors and whoever used the front door.

    My dad wilsl fix things when he is down if i need something fixed that will take a long time.

    The govt dont pay for everything. If i want to fix the house up, i generally have to get permission. I want to paint my house to give it a freah look but i need permission and all costs are my costs. Same with pest control when i need them.
    Some think housing is an easy ride, it might be cheaper but many are scraping the barrel with their finances, they struggle.

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    I think the same landlord/tenant responsibilities should exist for public housing as with private. So tenants pay for pest control, painting outside of that which the landlord deems necessary etc... And the landlord for fixing ovens, broken floorboards, mould infestation due to inadequate ventillation.
    - seems like nemmi's parents for ripped off big time by public housing not fixing things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    I think it's disgraceful that where there is an option to downsize, public housing tenants with spare bedrooms 'refuse' to move. Public housing is for providing a roof over the heads of people that need a hand. Not for providing lifelong homes for people.

    I don't think you can force strangers to live with someone. So if a person with a spare bedroom refuses an offer to downsize then kick their ungrateful butts out.
    I have to agree. I know a few of my nanas friends have refused to move out of their 3 bedroom houses, even though they live alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlissedOut View Post
    Maybe you could try secure him some housing yourselves, as guarantors.
    This has crossed our minds and had we not sold our house in the city a few years ago he could have lived there and our other property is a vacant block which is not useful at this point. We would happily have him live with us but we are 2700kms away from where he is and he wouldn't have access to the services he needs. I have just been talking to his lovely lady friend who care takes a horse farm in which my dad assists with for something to do and keep busy and the owner of that farm has offered dad the granny flat on the property as his permanent residence for as long as he needs which is lovely of him. So at least that is something if the commission muck him around. But the fact really is that he should not have to lose out by possibly be relocated to a trashy suburb which may compromise his safety. And it's also an independence thing for him.

    I think it should be means tested regularly though to determine and give priority to those that really do need the housing such as those with disabilities and elderly. I think there would be some people out there that may have been in need to begin with but whose circumstances may have changed and perhaps they may be quite capable of renting privately now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    That's not cool, your dad having to move towns because the governments decided not to have public housing there anymore. Tightar$es!
    Funny, back when we were growing up noone knew where that town was and it was classed as country but now it's well known and close to the city and costs a fortune to live there and they don't want commision housing there.

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    Most people in public house are not their because it's uber luxurious and it's their life plan.

    They're there because something went wrong- they got sick or injured, they couldn't break the poverty cycle, their spouse died or they suddenly became single with kids and needed to keep off the streets.

    As for the previous comments about the 'life time lease' and the people on them getting their butts kicked out- how silly. People who are on the life time lease (from 35+ years ago) are sure to be pensioners now- what do you want them to do? Spend of their pensions on market rent, or go out and get a job?

    And 2-3 years is enough to 'get their stuff together'? What about people trying to break the poverty cycle through education, apprenticeships or traineeships- all which can take more than 2-3years, not to mention the first year or so to establish oneself in their career. Do that not deserve the support of public housing even though they're not aged or disable?

    Solving the public housing shortage is not easy by any stretch, but the current QLD Government who thinks this is just brill, is desperately grabbing anywhere to make rash, unsustainable decisions to prove they "can do" it better, and realistically each one is as moronic as the next. Yet somehow, they do manage to dig up the funds *decorate* pretty areas @ $6.4m and find other silly things to squander the money, without actually supporting the people who need support the most.

    While there may be some merit to this idea for single people, how can it protect others? Didn't a PP mention that she got one of these letters and she has a young child? Would anyone honestly feel comfortable having a stranger move into their home by force with their small child? What about your Grandmother? Would you be cool with that? Yes, I agree on allowing people to downsize (that's plainly obvious, and two PP's mentioned they requested this and told no), but this is a complex problem, and this over simplified solution is just stupid.

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