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    I think that there are two main reasons, both of which have a direct correlation to the boom in connectivity and information flow.

    The first is perception. While I think that there absolutely is a rise in this sort of behaviour over and above the natural generational evolution, we are also far more aware of that which always existed. Sensationalist reporting and the constant news cycle means that we have a distorted view of how frequently these sorts of things happen. It's a problem, but not to the extent that our perception indicates.

    The second is how quickly and broadly ideas are communicated. This is a double-edged sword - while we benefit from global collaborative thought, stupid ideas are spread just as quickly as good ones. Ideas such as the demand for rights without the acceptance of responsibilities. The expectation of unfettered choice without the burden of the resulting consequences. The rejection of the reality that failure is every bit as necessary as success, and the insistence that the successful shouldn't be celebrated for fear of offending those that fall short.

    And that's to say nothing of the idea that vapidity and notoriety are more admirable than merit and accomplishment.

    As a society, I think we need something of a moratorium on finding new ways to absolve people of the responsibility of accepting the consequences of their choices and reinforce the idea that these consequences are a fundamental and necessary aspect of freedom. Faulty values that appeal to the unmotivated and/or incapable have been propagated, passed on to our children and continually reinforced to the point that they are seen to be desirable, and we are reaping the results.

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    All very interesting points, and I hear those who have mentioned that all generations have complained of the youth of today BUT I really don't think you can look past the fact that the most recent generations (starting from my own) seem to be assaulting teachers and police officers much more regularly (and from very young ages), to the point that these professions are leaving in their droves, and at the milder end of the scale many children have no qualms back-chatting and swearing at teachers, and even their parents.

    I know that I wouldn't have dared to do these things as a child, maybe because i was scared? Scared of the consequences, because I KNOW they would have been hefty. Even thinking of it now, I hate to think how my father would have reacted had I sworn at a teacher without extremely good cause. I feel my behaviour was curbed by a certain element of fear (and fear of disappointment), even though I had never actually experienced that fear through actual punishment. I guess in the same way one might fear going to goal?

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    I think people have become softer. I don't care if I get attacked for saying that because it's the way I feel and that's that.

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    I believe children's behaviour/discipline starts at home. I have seen spoilt kids with the world at their feet and they have no respect for anybody, I have seen poor kids with not much to play with etc and they have masses of respect. I think generally kids mirror their parents. Sometimes im sick to the back teeth of hearing how ''rude'' this generation is, YET sometimes I find the old generation just as rude, if not ruder.

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    I think "kids these days" have been "kids these days" since the beginning of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minchi View Post
    I believe children's behaviour/discipline starts at home. I have seen spoilt kids with the world at their feet and they have no respect for anybody, I have seen poor kids with not much to play with etc and they have masses of respect. I think generally kids mirror their parents. Sometimes im sick to the back teeth of hearing how ''rude'' this generation is, YET sometimes I find the old generation just as rude, if not ruder.
    lol yep I've never had a teenager stop me in the shopping centre to tell me how to parent.

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    I have a teenage son.. He and his friends are great kids.
    Helpful, respectful, caring, funny and enjoyable to talk to.
    My son calls me to double check if it's ok to use the change from his lunch money to pay for his friend to do sport. He knows I will say yes, but he does it anyway, because he knows I would do the same for him.

    One thing that my son, and his friends have in common, is parents that communicate, parents that take time to listen, parents that respect them, parents that lead by example.

    I'm proud of my teenager and his friends. They are awesome young people, with goals, dreams and lots of ideas to share. I think that if adults had more faith in their young people, than there might not be as many angry teens. Yes they can push the boundaries, because that's how they test the waters of becoming an adult, but it's our job to show them, respectfully, where the boundaries are.. While at the same time reminding them there is no limit to their potential.

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    Oops, so to answer the question, if teens are more disrespectful today (which I think is questionable), then in my opinion, it's because parents are either too busy, or too self involved, to really be there for their teenagers.

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    Back in the day, they might've ignored the old lady who wanted to talk to them, now they bash her and steal her handbag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpaghettiMonster View Post
    Off topic a bit, but you think it's bad having someone tell you to "smack" your one year old for biting - my mother (mid 50s) told me I should "BITE" DS when he bites me!!

    :O

    I didn't obviously, just told my mum she was insane.
    Yep I was told that too by my parents, in laws, co workers and gp. Technique all worked for their toddlers.

    Must say I did try it when dd1 bit me. I bit her back (not hard just pressed teeth to skin lightly - unlike the bit impression on my shoulder) on the hand and said "owie".

    Did work.


 

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