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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsdj1234 View Post
    Yes, but being hit by a truck will always be worse than being hit by a car

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    Being hit by either is all bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovemyfam View Post
    Being hit by either is all bad
    Yes both are bad, but survival rates in accidents are higher with cars as compared with trucks.


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    Benji do you mean truckers as one example? And others like say police or surgeons as others that hold our lives in their hands? Either way, I agree- they pose a greater risk to the community if drug affected than someone in their own home on the dole.

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    Well if they can drug test every worker on a mine site I'm sure they can drug test people on the dole. Its done randomly by computer selection using a program. I suppose they would do it at your local centerlink office. Do I support it no, but it is possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atropos View Post
    Benji do you mean truckers as one example? And others like say police or surgeons as others that hold our lives in their hands? Either way, I agree- they pose a greater risk to the community if drug affected than someone in their own home on the dole.
    All these professions should be drug tested IMO

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    I don't really see the point.

    People from all walks of life use drugs.

    I think there should be more psychosocial support for the long term unemployed.

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    If that happens I can see a massive increase in crime from people who can't afford to pay for their drugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsdj1234 View Post
    Yes, but being hit by a truck will always be worse than being hit by a car

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    I'd hazard a guess that there are way more cars on the road than trucks.
    I could be wrong though

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    Quote Originally Posted by zombiekitty View Post
    I'd hazard a guess that there are way more cars on the road than trucks.
    I could be wrong though
    I'd say trucks are on the road for a longer time than cars are in general. But I could be wrong too

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    Can I just say that in the field I work in (I will not be specifying here) that about 80-85 percent of our clients have alcohol and/or drug issues. We as employees are also subject to random drug and alcohol testing which is actually enforced, not just policy. I have been tested a number of times. The cost of breath testing is generally fine and not an issue in this thread as only basic supplies, calibration and the machine are paid for however urinalysis testing is extremely expensive and there are many, many ways to bypass testing - I have seen most of them attempted and have wised up to it! While I believe that drug use is not only a choice (initially) it quickly spirals into addiction which is very difficult to treat. The cost of administering testing would be a massive expense in laboratory testing, in addition to the mandatory training that is required as its not just about peeing in a cup! Also, without being discriminatory, a lot of people who are in the correctives, juvenile and court systems are also supervised by community services and recieving some form of centrelink payment and are subject to such testing. It is likely that they would be subject to testing from all three agencies! What a waste! Secondly, the people administering the testing would need to become experienced very quickly as they will soon be seeing results that are diluted, prescribed medication not being detected as its being sold and very much would need to learn about chain of custody samples as well as some of the tricks to avoid providing a sample! No.. While I do agree in principle I think that people struggling with genuine addiction do have big barriers to overcome.. But would threatening not to pay them if they aren't actively seeking treatment I would agree with!

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