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    Quote Originally Posted by MsMummy View Post
    using drugs or alcohol doesn't mean that you're not complying with your job seeking obligations. And if you don't comply, there are penalties.

    And the job seekers who do have serious drug and alcohol issues need support, not to be booted into further poverty.

    My partner has worked in job network for years, and while there is the odd stereotypical dole bludger, the average long term unemployed person has barriers for which they need support.
    I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benji View Post
    I'd prefer drug assessments for people who have our lives in their hands. People on the dole taking drugs is nowhere as dangerous as a truck driver taking drugs IMO.
    What an odd thing to say.
    There's probably way more everyday people influenced by drugs driving cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brooke88(mum2b09) View Post
    While I do know a fair few people receiving benefits that use a huge chunk of it on drugs and alcohol most of the people that I know who do it on a daily/regular basis have good paying jobs.

    So unless they're going to start drug testing for every type of employment I think this is unfair.

    Although I think if there has been proof of use/abuse that they could set up some sort of rehabilitation plans or classes that are mandatory, similar to how Work for the Dole works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brooke88(mum2b09) View Post
    While I do know a fair few people receiving benefits that use a huge chunk of it on drugs and alcohol most of the people that I know who do it on a daily/regular basis have good paying jobs.
    This!

    Despite what people think, drugs are not cheap and haven known plenty of users of all types of drugs I can tell you the ones working are usually the worst as they are the ones that can afford it, not the dole bludgers!

    I've known plenty of people using drugs such as ice and marijuana whilst working trade jobs, this to me is not only putting their own life at risk but also their customers if they do a dodgy job while under the influence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zombiekitty View Post
    What an odd thing to say.
    There's probably way more everyday people influenced by drugs driving cars.
    Yes, so odd to say that I'd prefer people who already undergo drug tests to undergo drug tests to people on the dole

    I also agree with random drug tests for drivers

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    Isn't that discriminatory? And wouldn't the cost be phenomenal? Seems a waste- if we had the resources to drug test all the people on payments, why wouldn't we use that money to help them, I dunno, get a job?

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    All very good points, I can see how it would be almost impossible to up hold. Maybe if they have a problem they are all seen as individual cases ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benji View Post
    Yes, so odd to say that I'd prefer people who already undergo drug tests to undergo drug tests to people on the dole

    I also agree with random drug tests for drivers
    So if they already are subject to testing (truck drivers), why say you'd rather see them tested than dole bludgers?
    Kinda states the obvious?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovemyfam View Post
    All very good points, I can see how it would be almost impossible to up hold. Maybe if they have a problem they are all seen as individual cases ?
    They already are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zombiekitty View Post
    What an odd thing to say.
    There's probably way more everyday people influenced by drugs driving cars.
    Yes, but being hit by a truck will always be worse than being hit by a car

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