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    Default Christians do you believe in hell?

    It has come to my attention that many christians do not believe hell exists.
    Can you tell me why? What about judgement day?

    If you believe it does exist, what is it that ultimately sends a person there?

    I personally believe hell exists.
    I believe that being a believer is not enough to be saved. I believe that you must truly turn away from sin and pay true repentance.
    I believe our lord is a kind loving lord, however I believe he is a judge.

    Without trying to stir as this is the only way I can compare, but I dont believe that being a good person is enough to enter the gates of heaven.
    It would be like putting a murderer next to a kind old lady and saying yep, you can both come in... if that makes sense??

    Anyway, please share your thoughts.
    Just to be clear, this is a discussion for christians... not an argument to be had with non believers.

    Thanks for keeping the nastiness out of this thread


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    Yep I believe in hell. I think you need to have a personal relationship with Jesus to go to heaven, but also I think ultimately it will come down to the individual circumstance whether Jesus will decide if u go to heaven or not.
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    I don't believe in heaven or judgment day either

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    No I don't believe in hell as a place. I believe in the second coming of Jesus and I believe that we will all be judged on the way we lived but I don't believe in those that don't make if to heaven will burn forever. I believe that they will understand that their own choices have led them to missing out on the kingdom of heaven and then they will pass away.btw I am seventh day Adventist.

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    My beliefs are that earth is h3ll. With the amount of pain and suffering happening now across the face of this planet, it would make a lot of sense.

    I am a firm believer in a Creator but I don't believe in being damned to an eternity of suffering because you are a non believer.

    I believe in a loving, compassionate Creator, so there is no room on my beliefs for a God that washes his hands off people simply because they don't have faith.

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    I am no longer a christian

    When I was old enough to form my own opinions I believed that 'hell' is simply a metaphor for life, it is a test and a way of having you go to your next life a better person.

    I have never believed the fire and brimstone and devil cr@p.

    'God' and the 'devil' exist in us all,
    It is our logical evaluation of right and wrong.
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    I believe in Hell. There has to be justice at the end of it all.

    I believe that you have to consciously choose to do the wrong thing and not be sorry for it in order to get there.

    If non-Christian people do their best, despite not having faith or opportunity to learn about God, I believe only God himself can judge their hearts and thus whether they go to Heaven.

    Of course, being Catholic, we believe in Purgatory, too - if you've got the odd smear on your soul and aren't sinless enough to go straight to Heaven, you spend a bit of time working it off there before you move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunnyflower View Post
    No I don't believe in hell as a place. I believe in the second coming of Jesus and I believe that we will all be judged on the way we lived but I don't believe in those that don't make if to heaven will burn forever. I believe that they will understand that their own choices have led them to missing out on the kingdom of heaven and then they will pass away.btw I am seventh day Adventist.
    I believe pretty similar to this, however I believe the Kingdom will be on earth, and that judgement will happen at the second coming of Christ.

    I don't believe in hell as a place in the way that many do (I.e: fire and being eternally tormented). I simply believe in the literal translation of the word "hell", which means "grave". The bible often talks about a fiery hell, where the original word used is "Gehenna" - which was a literal place. Often "unclean" bodies were burned there (prisoners, prostitutes, those who had died from leprosy etc). Thus, the concept of "unclean" people burning in hell. I think the early churches really used this concept to scare those who couldn't read the bible for themselves or when bibles weren't available and people were just told by priests what to believe. Over the centuries it has become the accepted interpretation by most. I believe the anguish the bible associates with hell is the literal pain and anguish of those who do not receive salvation will feel when they realise the mistake they have made as judgement day. I believe they will die with that anguish, and remain in the grave forever.

    I don't believe that simple believing in God and being a "good" person will save anyone. The bible is very clear about what is required - "Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved..." Mark 16:16. I really strongly believe that you need to be old enough to consciously believe and choose to follow Christ and be baptized - I do not believe in infant baptism as God never mentions it and children cannot make a decision to believe and follow.

    I don't believe in going to heaven, and I don't believe in immortal souls. When I read the bible I take it literally, and I try not to let any influences such as popular belief taint what is in front of me. The word "soul" in the bible literally means "breath" or "breathing". If something has a soul it means it is alive. I believe when we die we are no longer alive and we become dust, until judgment day. When that day comes I believe the dead will be risen and the world will be judged. Grace alone will save us, not the amount of good things we've done.

    I do believe you will need to be baptized to be saved.

    It's hard to explain the kingdom of heaven thing (it's long and I'm on my phone!) but, generally the kingdom or eternal life is referred to as the "kingdom of heaven" I believe that this means the kingdom will be heavenly, but not necessarily "in the sky". There are many references about it being on Earth and even says that Jerusalem will be the capital. I have a lot more to say but I really need to go to bed!

    I look forward to chatting more, and hearing your thoughts. love this stuff!

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    For those who don't believe that God will turn anyone away, how do reconcile that with the chapters like Galatians 5?

    "The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God."

    Or "whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him." (John 3:36)

    There are many instances in the bible where God didn't just let it go - take the example of the flood. Everyone but Noah's family died. Or the story of Sodom and Gomorrah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsd View Post
    I believe in Hell. There has to be justice at the end of it all.

    I believe that you have to consciously choose to do the wrong thing and not be sorry for it in order to get there.

    If non-Christian people do their best, despite not having faith or opportunity to learn about God, I believe only God himself can judge their hearts and thus whether they go to Heaven.

    Of course, being Catholic, we believe in Purgatory, too - if you've got the odd smear on your soul and aren't sinless enough to go straight to Heaven, you spend a bit of time working it off there before you move on.
    Can you share bible quotes about pergatory?

    I have only read there is heaven or hell, no in between

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