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    Toni, I'm so sorry.

    I had the same conversation yesterday in that if we wait and I do get problems they will have to remove my right tube. Our FS said he would also clip off the left if he was in there so this couldn't happen again. So flippantly talking about taking away the possibility of our natural fertility! I'm not sure of your circumstance, but for us, our prob is only DH sperm so to think they could take that away from me was brutal!

    I really feel for you Toni, that really does suck. So much of what we have to face up to on this journey does! I honestly can't express how much I feel for you, you've been my buddy through this craziness. But at least we have all these options and all this science to give us chance after chance to keep some hope alive. Let them take care of you and I wish you all the best and big hugs for your next step.

    AFM yesterday's BT was 326 up again from 300... Let go little emby... Cant believe I'm saying that! Its hard to compute. Think I might try hot baths... Next BT tomorrow...

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    Hi Ladies,

    Hope you are all doing well, I just have a quick question? Or two. Well I need to give a bit of info to ask the question so here I go,
    I rung my clinic today, as I've been cruising the internet for info for weeks and weeks, and I was a little concerned about being cd2/3 for my appt next month, I wanted to speak with my fs but she wasn't available so I asked the fn instead if I should try and see the fs a day or two earlier as AF is due a couple days before my appt, she informed me to keep the appt as it is and that they may do a natural cycle to see how my body will react to the et, as this will give them an idea of what to do the next cycle if it doesn't implant. if not they will do another cycle of BT's (my cycle never really changes, AF for me is usually on time, well for the last 4 years it has been like clock work, since we started tracking her, maybe a day late a couple times over those years) and my previous bt's for cycle tracking were good and my hormones were doing what they were supposed to when they were supposed to, also DH has had 2 samples tested and they came back prefect for everything, 'like a 20 year old' was their words even though he is 40.
    So my questions are:
    Has any of you had a natural cycle done before? And if so what did the cycle consist of? Also the outcome?

    Any info would be greatly appreciated

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    Helloo ladies, Im back in the running. Was already to go to Melb on the 1/7 to do EPU, but Vic police didn't give my clearance in time.

    So now, i've been given dates for 16/8.

    Totally hating this huge delay. How is everyone else going?

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    Ngaiz - I find that the nurses sometimes tell you stuff that is complete rubbish. Maybe you should request that your FS calls you directly & discuss with them.

    franniesplace - very sorry to hear about your ectopic. I'm afraid it did take a while for my hcg to come down - about 6 weeks from the miscarriage. I didn't have an ectopic though, I had a uterine pregnancy. Ok, you asked so I'll give you the long, gory version now.
    I got to 7 weeks and we saw heartbeat on the scan, the last hcg reading I'd had before that, it was over 4000. I'd had some bleeding & spotting throughout the pregnancy that came & went. But then when the m/c happened, it was quite sudden. It was a few days after the scan so we were feeling really positive & happy & did not have any spotting at that time. Then one night (it was a Sun night - 6th May) suddenly got bleeding & cramping. I decided the best thing to do was go to bed & hope for the best. On that night I passed something into the loo I definitely felt, which was probably my embryo (sorry, TMI). The next day (Monday) there was no more bleeding. I went to the GP and got a referral for a scan. The scan showed nothing there, so I knew I had miscarried.

    I'd been on 4 x pessaries a day as I'd had low progesterone from the start. I stopped those then. No bleeding or spotting at all, and then on Wednesday it came, once my body realised no more progesterone was coming. It was pretty much AF but a bit heavier. But then it just dragged on & on. I would think it had stopped, but then get a bit more, then think it stopped, but then get a bit more etc. Went on for a few weeks like that - stopping, then spotting, etc.

    10 days after the m/c I had a BT at IVFA. hcg was 700-odd. A week later was about 360, a week later 150 or so (can't remember exact figures now), then a week later 28. On that one though my progesterone had spiked up again so that was an indication I'd ovulated and AF was coming again. And it did. But with a few false starts, so not really sure exactly when to consider it had started. I suddenly got clotting & quite heavy bleeding one evening and thought it had arrived, but nothing during the day. This continued for a few days - heavy at night, but nothing at all during the day - then it turned into proper AF but was a bit long (and I don't really know exactly when was day 1). I really thought with all this, it had cleared everything out. Last BT was last week (2 weeks after the 28 one) and hcg was right down to less than 2, and progesterone indictative of AF. It finally stopped late last week and I had a good few days of nothing & actually being able to go without a pad for a few days running, for the first time in months! Then earlier this week suddenly got more spotting. *sigh* I don't know if I'm ovulating yet or what. But anyway, that's how long it took me & what has happened. I'm all ready to go with next AF but worried about knowing for sure when it has arrived.
    Good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by peoniesarepretty View Post
    Ngaiz - I find that the nurses sometimes tell you stuff that is complete rubbish. Maybe you should request that your FS calls you directly & discuss with them.

    franniesplace - very sorry to hear about your ectopic. I'm afraid it did take a while for my hcg to come down - about 6 weeks from the miscarriage. I didn't have an ectopic though, I had a uterine pregnancy. Ok, you asked so I'll give you the long, gory version now.
    I got to 7 weeks and we saw heartbeat on the scan, the last hcg reading I'd had before that, it was over 4000. I'd had some bleeding & spotting throughout the pregnancy that came & went. But then when the m/c happened, it was quite sudden. It was a few days after the scan so we were feeling really positive & happy & did not have any spotting at that time. Then one night (it was a Sun night - 6th May) suddenly got bleeding & cramping. I decided the best thing to do was go to bed & hope for the best. On that night I passed something into the loo I definitely felt, which was probably my embryo (sorry, TMI). The next day (Monday) there was no more bleeding. I went to the GP and got a referral for a scan. The scan showed nothing there, so I knew I had miscarried.

    I'd been on 4 x pessaries a day as I'd had low progesterone from the start. I stopped those then. No bleeding or spotting at all, and then on Wednesday it came, once my body realised no more progesterone was coming. It was pretty much AF but a bit heavier. But then it just dragged on & on. I would think it had stopped, but then get a bit more, then think it stopped, but then get a bit more etc. Went on for a few weeks like that - stopping, then spotting, etc.

    10 days after the m/c I had a BT at IVFA. hcg was 700-odd. A week later was about 360, a week later 150 or so (can't remember exact figures now), then a week later 28. On that one though my progesterone had spiked up again so that was an indication I'd ovulated and AF was coming again. And it did. But with a few false starts, so not really sure exactly when to consider it had started. I suddenly got clotting & quite heavy bleeding one evening and thought it had arrived, but nothing during the day. This continued for a few days - heavy at night, but nothing at all during the day - then it turned into proper AF but was a bit long (and I don't really know exactly when was day 1). I really thought with all this, it had cleared everything out. Last BT was last week (2 weeks after the 28 one) and hcg was right down to less than 2, and progesterone indictative of AF. It finally stopped late last week and I had a good few days of nothing & actually being able to go without a pad for a few days running, for the first time in months! Then earlier this week suddenly got more spotting. *sigh* I don't know if I'm ovulating yet or what. But anyway, that's how long it took me & what has happened. I'm all ready to go with next AF but worried about knowing for sure when it has arrived.
    Good luck!

    Gosh that sounds so stressful! I don't know how i could cope with all of that. Hope you're feeling better now.

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    Peonies, thank you so much for sharing your story! What a drag! And your pain to go from that HB to the bleeding, I'm so sorry.

    I have to say I love it that we have a place where we can say all that and it not be TMI! Ha ha. It's great.

    I hope that you are nearly ready to go and can't wait to follow your story this time round! Unfortunately maybe I've still got a long way to go in this limboland...

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    Toni I'm so sorry you have to loose your tube you are a very strong woman and have a great attitude to get through all of this. I really hope you get through this hitch and are on your way to try again soon.

    Emmylou, that sucks! Didn't that happen last time? Hope you don't have to wait too long

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    Quote Originally Posted by franniesplace View Post
    Toni, I'm so sorry.

    I had the same conversation yesterday in that if we wait and I do get problems they will have to remove my right tube. Our FS said he would also clip off the left if he was in there so this couldn't happen again. So flippantly talking about taking away the possibility of our natural fertility! I'm not sure of your circumstance, but for us, our prob is only DH sperm so to think they could take that away from me was brutal!

    I really feel for you Toni, that really does suck. So much of what we have to face up to on this journey does! I honestly can't express how much I feel for you, you've been my buddy through this craziness. But at least we have all these options and all this science to give us chance after chance to keep some hope alive. Let them take care of you and I wish you all the best and big hugs for your next step.

    AFM yesterday's BT was 326 up again from 300... Let go little emby... Cant believe I'm saying that! Its hard to compute. Think I might try hot baths... Next BT tomorrow...
    i am so sorry you have to goes though this i had a ectopic few yrs ago and mine ruptured at 8 weeks very painful , my tube removed and almost lost my life its not a pleasent path to go down sending you loads of hugs and support

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    KandP – I really hope you get ‘drunk’ on your cocktail of supplements and they all work together for you. Fingers crossed your hubby will be home for EPU. I was in the same situation but opposite location, my DH was due to go to Brisbane for work training on the same week as my scheduled EPU so he postponed the whole thing until Sept. Now with my AF being delayed he probably could have gone after all. If my AF doesn’t turn up by Monday I’ll have to go in for a blood test/US on Tuesday.

    Rachael – so nice to hear 9 fertilised for you, sounds like PICSI was the key for you guys this time. Best wishes on ET day.

    Toni – I’m sorry to hear what you’ve been going through, I’m sure the surgery will be fine and will help you get that one step closer to a sticky BFP. Wishing you all the best, take care of yourself.

    Emmylou – so frustrating your cycle has been cancelled until end of July, but at least you can still hang around with us.

    Frannie – sorry your FS wants to take both of your tubes, as you only have the problem with your right. I have heard of a family friend who had both tubes removed and fell pregnant on her next cycle. I know that’s no consolation on how you’re feeling, but just wanted to let you know there is still so much hope left.

    Tj79 – a natural cycle for me (and probably mostly everyone too) is on day 1 of AF you take the pill, usually for about 3 weeks and a few days before your next AF is due you either sniff synarel or inject lucrin to trick your body to not ovulate. Then a week after that you start injecting the hormones to help grow your follicles, this goes for probably 2 weeks and then you take a trigger injection 36 hours before you go in for EPU. You would also have a few BTs and USs whilst you’re injecting. Your clinic will give you a timetable so you don’t have to remember when you have to do what you need to. Good luck.

    KS09 – nice to hear you’re back in, hope August comes around quick for you.
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    Toni - so sorry about your tube; you're being very brave. But your dr is right - removing it does remove the chance of an embryo implanting in there again. Good luck darl.

    emmylou - oh no, what a bummer! How do they know you ovulated twice? (how is that even possible in one cycle?) And why would that mean your cycle has to be cancelled?


 

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