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    I leave DD in the car if I'm running in to pay petrol. I know, shock, horror, lock me up and throw away the key!

    She's nearly 7. A minute in a locked car is unlikely to do her any harm.

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    I also want to respond to Daniel Morcombe being used as a reason to disallow children personal freedoms.

    That is a one-off case, and I am sure if you looked hard enough you would find a one-off case to use to advise against anything.

    * Someone got food poisoning at a chinese restaurant. Oh no, we should never risk eating at a chinese restaurant ever again.
    * Look at the road toll last year. Lets all move out to the country so we don't have to cross busy roads.
    * Someone choked on a chicken bone. Oh no, we cannot buy a whole roast chicken from our local supermarket.
    * A woman got paralysed from her epidural during childbirth. Oh no, we shouldn't have epidurals anymore.

    I'm sure for any action you could find an instance of where it has gone wrong for someone.

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    My DD3 fell out of a tree and required surgery for a subdural haematoma. That was a very scary thing to happen, but I do not begrudge her climbing trees. (She wasn't allowed to for twelve months afterwards as per doctors orders, but after that she could climb trees again.) She is now 13yo and not interested in climbing trees anymore, but her younger sisters enjoy the activity still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyMummy View Post
    I leave DD in the car if I'm running in to pay petrol. I know, shock, horror, lock me up and throw away the key!

    She's nearly 7. A minute in a locked car is unlikely to do her any harm.
    Same.
    I leave ALL 3 in the car sometimes.. I'd be hauled off to the lock up.

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    No I don't.
    If god forbid something were to happen that parent will have to live with the guilt for the rest of their life, they don't need punishment on top of that.
    Obviously I think differently to children and babies being left in hot cars etc...

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    I would be much more 'free range' if I didn't feel that I could get in big trouble for it.

    I used to have no problem at all leaving the kids in the car while I paid for petrol so long as I had managed to get a bowser right at the door and there wasn't a line up - but now I'm petrified of doing that in case some 'goody two shoes' reports me for neglect!

    I've actually spoken to many different police officers about this paying for petrol issue and not one of them said they would charge someone for simply leaving the kids in the car to pay for petrol. It's probably safer for them in the car than trying to cross the forecourt anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NancyBlackett View Post

    On the face of it, the OP examples seem like an overreaction on the part of the police - yet who knows what other background there is? .
    It actually states that the mother in the first article was helpful, polite and an otherwise switched on mum.

    Dad being charged for sending 9 year old in to pick up take away, not sure of the background but I'm sure it would be known and mentioned if there was one.

    I just don't know what is right and wrong now as a parent. I wanted DS to walk to school with his friends when older like I did, I used to have no problem leaving him in the car for 30 seconds while I ran in to pay for fuel...

    Scary times we live in. We can't parent in the way we want any more and our kids will be almost teens before they can cross the road on their own without supervision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubbygirl View Post
    I dont think its just the temp that bother people.
    Its also tge kids could set the car in motion dangering them and others
    Or brakes or something could give way setting car in motion

    Anything could happen while kids are left in the car and being that they are in either in the passenger or backseat and those under 5yr are in car restrainants and there is basically nothing they can do to save them and their siblings.

    So i do get it as theres alot of risk even for just 20sec but i do get tge pain of taking kids out just for a 1min stop
    Totally agree, that's my worry and why I would not leave my kids in the car while it's running!

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    At the risk of sound really really old, bitter and cynical, gosh it's a different world.

    I was sent to the local corner shop from 3. If there was more than a couple of things Mum would write a note and I would give it to the shop keeper with some money so he would get me the items and give me the change.

    I caught the bus or rode my bike to school, alone, (no namby-pamby helmets) from about 6 or 7 years old. My older brother may have been with me at times but he would have been less than no help had I been in danger (seriously, if I had fallen off my bike and hurt myself he would have stopped, laughed, gathered a few friends to laugh some more then then rode on).

    I'm not saying these things are a good thing - just how different times have become even in my short life.

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    Bec, in a way we've gotten a lot better. We do and know better about car seat safety, sids, dangers of pools, helmets etc but like you I walked to the corner shop all the time to buy lollies. I walked home from school.

    This is mostly how I learned to be street smart. How are our kids meant to do this with mum and dad holding their hands until they are teens lol

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    But what did the police who did the arresting and charging know? That's more what I meant. Do they know of children alone being targeted etc.

    On the face of it, it does seem a tad excessive - but I don't imagine police to be so underworked that they have time to charge parents for the sake of it. I don't know.

    I should add for the record if faced with a choice of sending a 10yo to the loo with a 3yo or abandoning a trolley of groceries I'd choose that and I am entirely comfortable leaving my three year old in the car while i pay for petrol, I just wonder what made the police in the examples cited feel that the children weren't reasonably supervised.


 

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