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    Ridiculous.

    I can think of many, many times when I was under 12 that I did things on my own. I remember walking to the shops that was at least half a km away well before the age of 12 by myself and sometimes taking younger family members along with me.

    There are many cases now where young adults are having difficulty at tertiary studies or their first real jobs because they have been so protected and haven't developed resilience. We need to focus on what young people can do!

    BUT For some reason though the car one doesn't sit right with me. I always worry about little kids playing with the handbrake and stuff & actually having the car running is a concern in terms of "inviting" potential car thieves.

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    I think the law has to be there as a general rule, even though I agree the mum wasn't neglectful and it was only a few minutes there are unfortunately parents who do leave their kids in the car for long periods of time ( in Sydney there is always someone on the news who left their kid in the car at Star City Casino while they gambled) so for the responsible 90% of parents it is over the top but it's the neglectful 10% who do need this law in place so we can protect their children

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    I think the key thing is with both these cases that the judge didn't punish either parent. The mother was discharged completely and the father was convicted but with no conviction recorded or punishment handed down (no fine, jail time etc).

    So while the police may be able to charge you, the courts clearly don't see this as a punishable offence. And rightly so. It seems strange to send a parent to jail for leaving their children unsupervised for 10-30 minutes since a parent in jail would surely leave the child more vulnerable.

    I personally don't agree with leaving children unattended in the car. Letting a 9 year old go in and buy lunch and then come back out - I'm not sure where I stand, not having a 9 year old yet myself. But I don't agree it should be a matter for the courts.

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    Welcome to 2012. Can't wait to see how these kids grow up.
    They will be suicidal the first time they get rejected at a job interview or get lost driving their first cars.
    No leaving kids, no red pen on exams, in fact stuff the exams at least they tried, no competition because everyone is a winner, don't yell, don't say anything negative it might influence their fragile self esteem.
    Ohh fun times ahead...

    I reckon half the parents in Australia would have their kids taken off them if the "law" was watching.

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    I think back when I was under 12yrs walking to the store to get food. I would hate to think my mother got into trouble because I was hungry and made the decision myself to go get something to eat.

    Laws are getting out of control crazy these days. It is just common sense and I am glad the courts dismissed these cases. These laws should only apply to those who leave children in cars at the casino or for prolonged periods of time. These two cases seem to be a waste of courts time.

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    It's silly. I'd hate to think the police were being taken away from important jobs to charge someone who decided, on their own good judgment, to leave their 10 year old in the car for 5 mins while they ducked into the shop.

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    I think it's ridiculous, I understand on hot days obviously it's a danger, but living in Melbourne 80% of the year the heat isn't a worry. So what are the other concerns? I need to drop off an express post envelope to the bank once a week, I will leave all three kids in the locked car while I run in to drop it in the express box. I can't see the car for no more than 20sec. Truthfully though if it wasn't frowned upon I would be happy to leave them for 5 min, I haven't and never would but more from the concern of what other people would think. If the car is locked and at a reasonable temp??

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    Are they for real?
    I must be the worst mother in the work for leaving my baby in the car whole paying for petrol! Unbelievable!!

    Do they realise how annoying it would be for that mother to take her kids out of the car to get a few things?
    Maybe if they didn't have ridiculous car restraint rules for bloody 7 year olds it mightn't be as much of a pain to run to the shops!

    Hell she could have left her kids at home and no one would have even known!

    While I do understand that there are idiots out there who leave children unattended for a long period of time, but people shouldn't be quick to judge!

    If I saw a child unattended In the car, I would assess the situation and watch for longer then 5 mins before signing the mothers death warrant!

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    Quote Originally Posted by knomie View Post
    Are they for real?

    Maybe if they didn't have ridiculous car restraint rules for bloody 7 year olds it mightn't be as much of a pain to run to the shops!



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    I don't think that the laws on car restraints are ridiculous at all. In fact I think we still have a long way to go before they are up to the standards of other countries. Is it a pain in the backside...gawd yes! Is it worth it to ensure our children have max protection in an accident? Absolutely!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Areca View Post
    I don't think that the laws on car restraints are ridiculous at all. In fact I think we still have a long way to go before they are up to the standards of other countries. Is it a pain in the backside...gawd yes! Is it worth it to ensure our children have max protection in an accident? Absolutely!
    While I agree that safety comes first, I find it ridiculous that my 11 month old baby who already looks too big for her seat will be in that same seat for 4 years!

    Its ridiculous IMO as it just means that whoever in your family wants to take the kids they can't coz they dont have a bloody booster seat!



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