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    Mybooboo I think the sensitivity in this topic is that there might be a concern that people who haven't gone through IVF *might* use it as an opportunity to question whther IVF is a good idea at all. I got very hot under the collar when this thread started as one poster made a comment to the effect that she supported IVF up to a reasonable age. Um thanks but this is an IVF thread so comments like that just aren't necessary and may upset people. It's not a question of sticking your head in the sand. My request to move this to a more general area of the forum was clearly felt not warranted, but this topic does upset people particularly those who might be pregnant.

    But that's just my view and I can't speak for anyone else.

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    I asked my gp about this once, and she said a study like this will surface every now and then. She thought there wasn't really enough convincing data yet, but you that you have to keep in mind that women doing ivf usually take a long time to conceive and a lot of us are already into the late 30s and 40s when we do have children, so the older you get, there is naturally an increased risk of birth defects as your egg's age. That makes sense to me. I'd be interested in seeing some more studies on the long term effects of the ivf drugs on women.

    I guess with IVF there aren't many accidental pregnancies, so you are screened for every disease you could pass on to a child and that you are perfectly healthy. Most women are also super careful not to drink alcohol, take drugs, smoke or even drink coffee because they want to maximise their chances. We acknowledge that we might have some higher risk factors having an IVF baby, because it is an unnatural process, but i think the technology has come a long way and those risk are probably quite minimal.

    It will be interesting as time goes on, there will be a longer data set one IVF children.
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    Sonja, i kind of agree with you.

    Going through ivf is hard enough, women who are already pregnant or trying to get pregnant, probably don't need any things to worry or feel guilty about. Doing ivf, you usually already cop a bit of flack anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilypily View Post
    I think it's a load of cr@p. My baby is just like any other baby, and will grow up just like everyone else. What a scaremongering thread to start. There has been nothing to suggest that at " 32" years " something might start to go wrong" pfft.. Don't get me started.
    Exactly what was going through my mind when reading this thread!

    My egg was fertilized with my husbands sperm just out of the body is all, no genetic issues either side of our family, I have never given it a thought that our sons could have health problems because they were conceived a different way, no reason why they would.

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    I think this research (ivf babies more likely to have specific conditions when older) falls under a broader category of research called epigenetics, which is a fairly new and fascinating (possibly controversial) set of ideas that suggests that our genetic predisposition to certain conditions/traits is not just as simple as what's encoded in our genes, but how these genes can be turned on or off under certain conditions. Using IVF as an example: yes like pp, i believe that there is still natural selection going on with ivf (even ICSI) that's why we dont get 10 perfect blasty from ten eggs. But the major difference is that the embryos live in a petri dish for 2-5 days before being transferred back into the uterus. The conditions in the petri dish, while trying best to mimic the natural environment (fallopian tubes, uterus) are not quite the same thing and this is when different genes could be switched on or off leading to different outcomes when the child is older because the cells in the embryo are stem cells which go on and differentiate to create the whole baby and all its different cells. So there is the potential for flow on effects. I hope this make sense!

    Basically anything and everything we do is going to affect our babies ivf or not! There has been no significant findings to date to say that ivf babies are inferior or it is a technology that should come with more warnings. Its all about our environment and back to the whole nature (genes/genetics) versus nurture (environment).

    There's a whole bunch of studies investigating the offspring of people who lived thru wars and starvation and the flow on effects to their grandchildren!
    http://www.nature.com/drugdisc/news/...1686a_bx1.html

    Trust me ladies there's plenty of other stuff in our environment to worry about more than the affects of ivf on our bubbas!

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