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    "Jesus Cures Cancer"

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/6835...-cancer-ruling

    A church billboard proclaiming that "Jesus Heals Cancer" has breached advertising standards by suggesting the church can offer something other churches cannot, the Advertising Standards Authority has ruled.

    Napier's Equippers Church had a billboard saying "Jesus heals cancer - church but not as you know it."

    It drew a number of complaints including from a mother whose son had cancer.

    "As the mother of a three-year-old boy who has spent the past 18 months fighting against leukaemia, I find the above billboard offensive and upsetting," the complainant, identified only as Jody Condin, wrote.

    "It shows no compassion and understanding to those in our community that have journeyed through cancer and lost loved ones."

    In her initial complaint, Condin said the billboard made her blood boil "and brings back sad memories of those I have lost in my life due to cancer. It is false advertising."

    She said the billboard was dangerous and deceptive as it could potentially offer false hope and lure in the vulnerable in their time of illness and sadness.

    "I would be more than happy if this billboard was to read 'Jesus Heals' and that way it could be interpreted to mean he heals spiritually/emotionally which I believe is more along the lines of what the church are trying to say."

    Equippers Church told the authority that it was never their intention to create offence, division or contention in the community.

    They had already removed the billboard but wanted an Advertising Standards Authority ruling on it.

    Their new billboard said "Jesus Heals every Sickness & Every Disease - Matthew 4:23".

    The church said they believed the Bible as the authoritative and reliable source of information and it gave numerous accounts of Jesus healing people.

    "Our belief is substantiated by the fact six people within our congregation have testified to Jesus healing them from cancer," the church said.

    The church said religious advertising and freedom of speech were vital components of a free and democratic society.

    Pastor Lyle Penisula recognised that using ''the C word'' made some families uncomfortable and believed this was why the billboard hit the limelight.

    ''In the days of Jesus, leprosy was the word of fear, that everybody sort of walked around, and Jesus in his day healed leprosy. In today's day cancer is probably the modern day leprosy and people just want to tread carefully around it.''

    Ad Feedback However, he maintained his belief that Jesus could cure cancer.

    In its consideration, the Advertising Standards Authority said it had looked a photograph of the billboard which was clearly identifiable as an advertisement for the Equippers Church.

    But it said the billboard made its statement as a "strong absolute statement of fact" when it should be stated as a belief of the church. It breached the advertising code of ethics on that ground.

    The authority said it acknowledged the vulnerability and sensitivities of some of the public exposed to the advertisement, but said it was unlikely that people suffering from cancer may forgo conventional medical treatment because of the statement "Jesus Heals Cancer".

    The authority said that while the church wanted to offer "a message of hope" its billboard was provocative and would cause offence to people who were dealing with, or knew people who were dealing with, cancer.

    It said the billboard could cause confusion for some people as it could be interpreted as meaning the Equippers Church was able to offer something that other churches could not.
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    Interesting peoples different reaction to it.
    While I agree that its kinda false advertising and can cause false hope. But I'm a huge believer in faith. During my cancer battle I had my local parish praying for me and my faith was made stronger during that time which many couldn't understand but it wasn't like god and/or Jesus gave me cancer but praying definitely helped during chemo etc

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    What do you think I think

    (BTW - I'm just watching "The God Delusion" as I type)

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    I understand people getting together at a time of need - especially during sickness and feeling strength from the positive thoughts.

    But to claim a cure will be found through 'jesus' could be damaging.
    Infact there have been lives lost when people ignore medical intervention and attempt 'faith healing'.
    Last edited by FiveInTheBed; 01-05-2012 at 20:07.

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    *shakes head*

    This is the kind of thing that boils my blood.

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    Not only offensive to the people who ACTUALLY cure cancer (doctors, scientists, nurses) but also offensive to cancer patients who aren't believers. When I almost lost my mum to ovarian cancer, a friend of hers from work told her she survived because they preyed for her.

    Of course, not the chemo or the surgeries she went through..no.

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    As always I'm going to tread lightly here as I understand some truly believe jesus cures cancer. But a whole lot of believers die too, and think that says volumes. I'm going thru a stage in my life where I believe there is so much proof in the world that god doesn't exist. Cancer in itself, is one of them.

    With respect to those who are religious.... yes I feel it's false advertising and yes I believe it breaches advertising standards.

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    These six people who were apparently healed by Jesus... did they undergo any other sort of treatment, or simply just attend church and pray? I doubt it was the latter...

    I think it's a ridiculous billboard and very offensive to those who have dealt with cancer in their life. It kind of suggests that if you just believed, then you wouldn't suffer... or maybe if you do believe, that perhaps you're just not worth saving?

    I dunno, it's a stupid billboard as it's states something as fact... which it is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyMummy View Post
    It kind of suggests that if you just believed, then you wouldn't suffer... or maybe if you do believe, that perhaps you're just not worth saving?
    Yep I got that too, whether it was meant that way or not...

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    I've just heard that 80,000 people visit Lourdes each year for some form of healing. Total number of people who have been cured? 66

    (Source - Catholic organiser at Lourdes on "The God Delusion")

    Nearly 2 years ago my Dad collapsed and was rushed to hospital with an abdominal aorta anurism (sp?). Less than 50% of people make it to hospital alive, less than (from memory) about 20% make it through the op, about 1% actually make it at all. Yet he survived! My Dad is athiest. If God/Jesus can and does intervene, on what grounds does he do so? Is it random (which seems horrifically cruel)? Is there a quota? Is it on the grounds of being a good Christian/Jew/Moslem? I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to find a person of deep faith who lived a very wholesome life who was a victim of a terminal illness.

    In saying that I do believe their is something to be said for the power of prayer (and by prayer I mean people unselfishly wishing good things on others, I don't mean people trying to connect with a deity).

    ETA: The poster should read "Doctors can sometimes cure cancer" and THAT can be scientifically proven. It's got nothing to do with "Free Speech" either. If someone makes such a claim as to cure cancer then they need to be able to substantiate that claim using scientific measures.
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