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    I want discount on my bras cause before I was utd I had itty bitty titties and hardly any fabric! I should get it cheaper
    Still can't believe that this has gone from planes to busses to bras !!!

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    I actually didnt know that the larger people taking up more then one seat is such a widespread issue. Im of the belief that if you pay for an economy cheap seat then its something you have to deal with. Skinny people can always buy business or first class to avoid the problem.
    I definitely dont think larger people should pay for two seats, maybe the airline could have a few larger seats on their planes, i couldnt imagine more then a few people needing it per flight

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    Quote Originally Posted by bada View Post
    I wear a size 12 women's shoe. Cheap shoes are not made in my size. I have no option but to buy expensive shoes. Doesn't mean that's the way it should be. They should make shoes in my size.
    I think that's where market forces come in to play (a strategy I've already suggested for dealing with the airline seat problem).
    I grew out of cheap female sized shoes in primary school, so switched to men's sneakers. It was about 10 years later that manufacturers and retailers realised they had an untapped market and started making one size larger more readily available. A friend led me to believe that size 12 (women's) was similarly now starting to become more easily available.

    I agree that a government owned, tax-payer funded, company should make something available in an equitable manner to all of its citizens, but a non-government owned company is usually only interested in the money. If they don't think it economically viable to supply a market segment why should they be forced to?
    (Back to comparison with disabilities again for perspective ...) If it's not economically viable for a business to provide equitable disabled access (due to unjustifiable economic hardship) then they don't have to. Governments, on the other hand, must - even though they often don't.

    Aside: Yes, it may appear that I have contradicted my earlier statement about bus seats, but it was my understanding that a majority of the voting public support user-pays and cost recovery for public transport at the moment and not complete government subsidy. If bus travel were free (my preference for public and essential services), then I believe a second ticket should not be required for larger passengers on a fully occupied service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fox View Post
    I actually didnt know that the larger people taking up more then one seat is such a widespread issue. Im of the belief that if you pay for an economy cheap seat then its something you have to deal with. Skinny people can always buy business or first class to avoid the problem.
    I definitely dont think larger people should pay for two seats, maybe the airline could have a few larger seats on their planes, i couldnt imagine more then a few people needing it per flight
    This I do agree with. Its going to be a rare situation where someone really doesnt fit in their seat? And as I said surely if.theres another economy seat available and you feel your not comfortable space wise I would hope the air line would accommodate - but to avoid the issue altogether if its a huge concern an individual could purchase a business class ticket themselves.

    But I do wonder what airlines do in situations where it cant be solved so amicably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fox View Post
    I actually didnt know that the larger people taking up more then one seat is such a widespread issue. Im of the belief that if you pay for an economy cheap seat then its something you have to deal with. Skinny people can always buy business or first class to avoid the problem.
    I definitely dont think larger people should pay for two seats, maybe the airline could have a few larger seats on their planes, i couldnt imagine more then a few people needing it per flight
    Now I've heard it all, buying an economy seat means you have to put up with being inconvenienced by those who spill over into your seat space and you could always upgrade. Sorry, I buy what I need. I am short and light so don't need anymore space than economy, I don't even use all that I have. I also don't need the extra perks offered in the front of the plane. Those people that need them should buy them.

    Bada a size 6 pair of jeans and a size 16 pair of jeans take the same amount of time, skill and effort to make. That is where real costs come in. I can assure you if they took more time, effort or cost more in worker hours to make, they would be more expensive.

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    In a plane trip you are not paying for space you are paying to get from A to B. The argument that larger people should pay more because they take up more space shouldn't apply. If people were to be charged more because of their size then so should tall people because they also take up more space - but space is not what is being purchased otherwise there would be a size sliding scale in airline seat prices which there isn't. I'm not sure what the answer is but that man was heinously rude and callous. I think I would have been tempted to tell him to shut the eff up because his offensiveness was impacting on my right to a pleasant flight. Rude!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boobycino View Post
    ...if its a huge concern an individual could purchase a business class ticket themselves.
    The problem with this (other than the cost) is that you don't know whether you are going to need it until you are on the plane already.

    Airlines are not going to put in bigger seats - if anything they are going to try to squeeze more people in per flight.

    I feel that if a larger person is causing significant discomfort to the person next to them, or it is obvious at check-in that this is going to happen, then the airline has a responsibility to do something about it. Either ensure the seat next to them is empty, or to put them into a larger seat. in either case there probably should be at least a nominal charge - in both these cases the airline would be using a seat that could otherwise be sold to a full-fare paying person.

    In any case what happened in the OP was disgusting and the bully should have been escorted from the plane.

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    At the movies, theatres etc... Students/pensioners/children/seniors get a discounted rate for taking up a seat the same size as an adult seat.
    Eg my local cinema is $17 per adult, my teenage niece gets a child rate for $11. Even though she's taller and takes up more room. But gets a seat and views the same movie.

    I'm not sure how this applies really but wanted to make the point about 'seating inequity'. Hehe

    Unfortunately if you're overweight there might be limitations. Same as if you are short, elderly, tall, young....
    I once had to turn away an obese man on a theme park roller coaster because the harness wouldn't lock on him. I felt awful but couldn't do anything about it. Same for someone who is too short to ride a roller coaster even though they paid a standard fee to get in.

    On a plane you are paying for your seat... It was allocated to you. Its not just a ticket from A to B. Therefore you are entitled to be as comfortable as the silly plane seats allow. Which means adequate use of the armrest, chair and table without your personal space being imposed on. Anyway, that's just my thoughts.

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    Correct me if I am wrong but aren't disabled people "discriminated" against as only a few wheelchairs can be accommodated, some require a companion to also travel, etc?

    You could argue that it would make sense to apply similar rules for those who are so large that they take up more than one seat.

    Being overweight, for the vast majority of cases, is not a disability but is down to lifestyle choices.

    That guy was disgustingly rude and it should have been handled much differently but I don't think it's fair for other passengers to have to suffer physical discomfort because of someone else's lifestyle choices.

    I do think that it's an airline issue though. Nobody in their right mind would pay for two seats if they don't have to. So unless the Airlines introduce some guidelines we will all just have to put up with the risk that it could happen I guess. Personally I'd like them to enforce the hand baggage rules properly before introducing any more as this has caused issues on flights I have been on way more than the issue of an obese passenger!!

    I don't think people can never expect to be inconvenienced or have to pay extra for some things because of their weight or height. I am average height (165cm) and almost always have to pay at least $30 on top of the price of pants to get them taken up as they are too long, and it's really inconvenient. But such is life.

    But there is never any excuse to be rude and degrade another person.

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    Yes it's humiliating for the man whose overweight but show some consideration to the poor person who had to sit next to him. That's a huge breach of their personal bubble!

    I loathe it when people get too close to me, on top of that overweight people sweat A LOT and in my experience everytime I've say next to an overweight person I've been left with a wet patch of sweat from where we had physical contact and a majority of the time they have terrible body odour. The flight from Brisbane to Sydney might be short but it's definitely not going to feel like it when you have someone sitting on top of you or in someone's lap.


 

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