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    As a teacher, I certainly don't see public schools as a lesser choice.
    Ideally, I'd like for every parent to be able to choose a school based on what best suits their child's personality/interests. That could mean a university-entrance focused school (often private...although I went to one which was public), a school with specialist programs, a school with teachers/a culture which supports the particular student in some way....etc. Having worked in a variety of schools, I'd say that most schools are perfect for some students.
    That said, of course those with less money have less choice about schooling - hence why I'm passionate about high quality public schooling. Personally, I'd be happy sending my child to any of the public schools where I've worked - and I've worked in some particularly "bad" schools - unless/until any problems developed specific to my child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiamondEyes View Post
    To me, i dont see public as a lesser choice, but we are blessed to be a part of a public school that for our situation is perfect.

    Ill give and example of why ours is perfect for us, and why the exact same school is terrible for a friend.

    My son has autism. He has access to funding for an aide which helps him greatly, ey also have an OT come in two times a week for an afternoon OT sessn for kids like my son, one session of OT costs us $75 so for him to be getting two a week for nothing is amazing, thats 5 ot sessions a fortnight!! ^_^ (we pay for one privately) his teacher from last year and his teachers this year have been amazing, sending regular emails back and forth with my sons speech path and OT, working together with me and my boy to make sure he passes that grade. Hs report cards are on the lower side of normal but still normal! No failing!! We couldnt ask for more really. His aide floats around the playground, and can always tell me if there has been an issue in the playground. If im particularly upset at school drop off about something (regarding ds) the teacher will rush upto me, the aide will too to see if im ok, and say they will keep a close eye on him, and then i get a call through the day to let me know how he is going.

    My friend has a child who is far above her peers, she gets given homework above her actual grade and has gone as far as she can in level reading. She is bored and starting to misbehave because of this. They cant offer my friend any more to help her daughter advance, and suggested she enroll her in a grammer school. This has annoyed my friend beyond words, and i would too.

    So for me the school is perfect, for her its not. Its about kids individual needs which makes a school decent or not in my opinion.
    I completely agree wit this... It's not as simple as public vs private. It's about the individual school, the indvidual teachers, the individual child. In the above example, a child with disabilities receives more funding in a public school than a private one. I have taught 3 autistic children in my time in private school, and none of them ever had a funded aide - the most a child received was 30 mins per day of learning support. So in that case, I would think the child would be better off in a public school where they will get more govt funding, and help and support. I know this isn't always the case - as I said, its about the individual.

    Personally, I also believe the quality of teachers is paramount to the quality of education. You can get good and bad teachers in both public and private, and I've worked with both. When I was first employed in a private school, I felt enormous pressure as a teacher - I felt like the parents were paying so much more for the privelage of little ol me to teach their kids, so I better do a darn good job! I had a lot expected of me, by both the parents and the school, and rightly so. In my experience, if you are teaching in a school that expects a quality teacher, and you are not willing to put in that effort into your teaching, you will not last - the pressure is too much. That can be a public or private school.

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    Ok, what I guess I was trying to ask, is why is this perception that public schools ALL have big classes, the older teachers who are due for retirement who no longer put any effort into their classes and who are made up of delinquent students?

    Any why are private schools susceptible to the perception that all students are very well behaved from high socioeconomic backgrounds who always do their homework, who's parents make sure they have the very best, where class sizes are less than 20 and the teachers are fresh and young, but no so young that they don't know what they are doing..

    Of course the following is a sweeping mass generalisation, but I always seem to find this under-currant that public-crap, private-awesome. I know teachers in private schools who think they are better than those in public systems (always a laugh, when I've never wanted to work private, and they've probably wanted to work public, so how one can be compared to another I'll never know.)

    My brain is still muddled, but I'm not asking what school you'll choose for your LO's or why... I want to know- Do you perceive public schools as inferior (or do you see them as being perceived as inferior by others) to private schools, and why do you think this is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomsie View Post
    Ok, what I guess I was trying to ask, is why is this perception that public schools ALL have big classes, the older teachers who are due for retirement who no longer put any effort into their classes and who are made up of delinquent students?

    Any why are private schools susceptible to the perception that all students are very well behaved from high socioeconomic backgrounds who always do their homework, who's parents make sure they have the very best, where class sizes are less than 20 and the teachers are fresh and young, but no so young that they don't know what they are doing..

    Of course the following is a sweeping mass generalisation, but I always seem to find this under-currant that public-crap, private-awesome. I know teachers in private schools who think they are better than those in public systems (always a laugh, when I've never wanted to work private, and they've probably wanted to work public, so how one can be compared to another I'll never know.)

    My brain is still muddled, but I'm not asking what school you'll choose for your LO's or why... I want to know- Do you perceive public schools as inferior (or do you see them as being perceived as inferior by others) to private schools, and why do you think this is?
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    Depends entirely on the individual schools, private doesn't = better based on just that info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomsie View Post
    Ok, what I guess I was trying to ask, is why is this perception that public schools ALL have big classes, the older teachers who are due for retirement who no longer put any effort into their classes and who are made up of delinquent students? Any why are private schools susceptible to the perception that all students are very well behaved from high socioeconomic backgrounds who always do their homework, who's parents make sure they have the very best, where class sizes are less than 20 and the teachers are fresh and young, but no so young that they don't know what they are doing..
    Bc I think it begins with the undercurrent that having more money means you are a better parent, more discipline, better clothes. In essence rich = better. So when' better' parents send their kids to expensive = better schools, you have' better' kids being educated in a 'better' environment with 'better outcomes'. As the teachers being worse in public, that is linked to the above. The 'best' schools attract the 'best' staff and public are left with the offcuts that weren't employed privately.... and of course I don't belief that for a second, but I'm answering why I think it is.
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    In my experience they have been lesser.

    I am sure they try but they just do not have the money and the resources to compete.
    I have tried 2 public schools and its left such a bad taste in my mouth.

    I have found that the big differences for me have been..
    more accountability from the principal to fix issues
    better amount of teachers assistants, giving teacher more time.
    more specialist teachers
    more subject, extra curricular choices.
    Better communication from school



    Its only based on what has happened for me.

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    I don't know anyone like that. We all look at the best school or our children. I know families where their kids go to different schools because different schools suit different kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by share a book View Post
    I don't know anyone like that. We all look at the best school or our children. I know families where their kids go to different schools because different schools suit different kids.
    I don't think everyone that goes private thinks that way. We are very fortunate to have a fantastic public in our catchment whereas I know you don't. You sent your child private bc the local public was feral, I understand that decision.

    But undoubtedly some go private bc of the perception that money means better.

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    In all honesty yes , I perceive public schools to be inferior, based on my experience of going to school, where my nieces, nephews and friends kids go to school and being involved in selling houses around certain schools

    the public schools near where we live and work are old , smaller schools and some do have good teachers but their facilities are shocking, we help fund raise so the local public school near the office can buy white boards and 1 or 2 computers for their library , a lot of locals pull their kids out in year 5 or 6 to go to private schools (local public high school has a really bad reputation) and all of them comment not only on how better the school
    Is but the attitudes of the teachers

    my girlfriend pulled her daughter out of the local catholic high school because they did not even have the electives she needed to get into medicine at Uni

    the private schools facilities are far superior, have so much more to offer and benefit the kids, of course just because your child attends private school does not mean he will be better behaved or get better grades , that's still up to the child and parents but at least he will have a better opportunity too

    We enrolled DS into a private boys school when he was born, my brother went there, we know plenty of kids who went/go there and feel
    It is better for our son, my DH went to the local public schools and refused out right to send his son there, I have many clients and friends who work 2 jobs to send their kids to private school

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