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    Quote Originally Posted by sockstealingpoltergeist View Post
    Yep I'm special like that.

    I emasculated my ex so much I'm almost a divorcee, and I'm back on the old welfare cycle. It's dragging me down, so to cheer myself up I went and bought an ipad.

    How are you?
    Ohhhh an iPad?! Thats extravagant for someone relying in handouts **shakes head**

    I'm fantabulous lovely! It's nice to see you here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janesmum123 View Post
    I agree it needs to be broken.
    But not by cutting payments and making them live in worse conditions then they already do or denying them everything we think they should not have.

    Encouage them and start at school. Get these kids into apprenticeships before they drop out. Take them to unis and get them to speak about what they want to achieve. Make it possible for them. That should be compulsory in school.
    Once they believe in themselves it's easier to encourage them to reach their goals. But putting them down doesn't work. Forcing them to clean toilets or other such work will only enforce the view that, that's all they can achieve.
    Your right cutting payments won't help and will make them worse off but forcing them to work will help. Sometimes people just need a nudge and once they are forced to work they get in a routine and keep at it. While they are home giving them the opportunity to get schooling is great if they want to do that instead of working if they want to achieve a career.

    Also for some welfare is easier and remember that our kids learn from seeing what adults do. I am 1 of 8 children I was removed from my mom at 5 months old and put up for adoption she didn't want to work so she had another baby and kept having them. She raised all but me and they are all on welfare except me. I was raised by a single mom who never recieved welfare, never ask for child support for my 2 siblings and put her self through college to get her Masters degree she was an inspiration to me when I was struggling through college with 3 kids and living with my ex if I got discouraged I just thought I could do it if she could as a single mom of 3 I often wonder how I would have turned out if raised by my bio mom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nattie84 View Post
    I agree!!! I work hard to have a nice house etc and it's the same old people who are lazy and whinge and moan about what they don't have. Why should we pay more taxes to pay for them to not work and for them to get free housing!!
    Where are these lazy people. I want names and adresses?

    I can get free housing? No one told me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonky Donkey View Post
    I'm going to start building a fortress now for when this bright spark is leading us all...who wants to join me?
    I'm in! Pets allowed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jakois View Post
    Ohhhh an iPad?! Thats extravagant for someone relying in handouts **shakes head**

    I'm fantabulous lovely! It's nice to see you here
    I don't really have an ipad. That was a lie to seem cooler then I am.Soz
    But I do really have a big screen TV.

    It's nice to see you too.

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    DP will be paying quite a bit in tax this year too Beryl... but just because we've got a bit now, doesn't mean it'll always be the case, and it certainly wasn't the case for us at first.

    Sometimes people rely on welfare for a while while they're working towards something bigger. They don't deserve to be punished for aiming high. Sometimes it's aim high, work hair and rely on welfare to get your through for a bit... or settle for a dead-end job that earns just enough that you're not on welfare for eternity. I think encouraging the former is more productive than encouraging the latter...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sockstealingpoltergeist View Post
    Where are these lazy people. I want names and adresses?

    I can get free housing? No one told me?
    Yep you sure can. In mount druitt or Macquarie fields in about 20 years.
    Then everyone can call you scum... Yayay what fun.
    And from your payments you can save for a BMW.
    Stuff those workers this is a life of luxury one can only dream off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sockstealingpoltergeist View Post
    I don't really have an ipad. That was a lie to seem cooler then I am.Soz
    But I do really have a big screen TV.

    It's nice to see you too.
    No iPad? Shame.

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    seriously though...

    how much tax does everyone pay and how much is housing?

    what you actually pay is so tiny...plus even if you work, you still cost the country...
    Your tax might be what covers you if your spouse/partner dies..
    or you become paralysed..

    will that make you a freeloader?
    what if your partner leaves you...

    what is your plan..as anyone can end up a single parent its not a select group.

    You could earn loads and have a lovely house and touch no drugs and one day it could be all gone...

    I have a friend whose husband was on about 350k a year.
    He lost his banking job.

    they are living in a rental property and trying desperately to get another job. Its been 2 years.

    Their savings are almost gone and she is earning $40k.

    BIG BIG FALL.

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    I'd just ignore and delete. Life it too short to waste time with people who, despite life experience, privilege and access to more information then they could ever need will insist on seeing the world in black and white.

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