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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsdj1234 View Post
    How would everyone feel if instead of cash to be given, what if it was put straight into super of SAHM's? Would it then be a waste of government money?

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    I know too well the plight of mothers who stay at home during the early years of their child/ren's lives. I have about $800 in super after 9 years out of the workforce.

    Personally, my political thoughts are inline somewhere around democratic socialism, so ideally I would love for SAHM to not have to make huge short and long term financial sacrifices for having children. However, since Australia and it's economic system are nowhere near democratic socialism and quite firmly entrenched in capitalism, this idea is poor fiscal policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Bboys View Post
    Im sorry but I don't understand what you're getting at?

    I was referring to the high cost of child care being reduced. Not hand outs to individuals.
    The whole idea of increasing the baby bonus that Barneby Joyce is proposing is to assist SAHM's, in the same way the paid parental leave assists those who have been working.
    Childcare costs don't generally affect SAHM's.

    And everyone recommending that the money being better spent on other things just reinforces that being a SAHM is not respected by society at all.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsdj1234 View Post
    The whole idea of increasing the baby bonus that Barneby Joyce is proposing is to assist SAHM's, in the same way the paid parental leave assists those who have been working.
    Childcare costs don't generally affect SAHM's.

    And everyone recommending that the money being better spent on other things just reinforces that being a SAHM is not respected by society at all.


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    I do agree that there is a lack of respect for sahms, although I don't think this thread has been particularly rude to sahms (in fact, I'm fairly sure you were referred to as proper mums )

    Sahms receive FTB and the baby bonus. I will always support this. It is SO important. The problem for many working mums is that we lose that AND are forced to pay horrendus child care fees, often $300+ per week. Something does need to be done about this. This is often why families are struggling but have no choice to struggle as being one income family is tough for many but they'd actually be no/little better off with mum working because of child care fees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsdj1234 View Post
    And everyone recommending that the money being better spent on other things just reinforces that being a SAHM is not respected by society at all.


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    yeah, but sadly it's something we know. Unless you work you deserve nothing bc only wealthy families have SAHM's

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsdj1234 View Post
    The whole idea of increasing the baby bonus that Barneby Joyce is proposing is to assist SAHM's, in the same way the paid parental leave assists those who have been working.
    Childcare costs don't generally affect SAHM's.

    And everyone recommending that the money being better spent on other things just reinforces that being a SAHM is not respected by society at all.


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    But sahm's were saying they didn't go back to work coz of the cost of child care. I know that's a different topic but I seriously don't mean to be rude or put down sahms but I only have working mum friends. I don't know any sahm's except my sil in the uk who doesn't have to work. Seriously I was brought up by a workaholic mum do seriously don't understand the sahm world.

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    Terrible idea. This money should be going towards our health system and medical research.

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    I haven't read all the replies, I'm sorry if I'm repeating.

    Instead of paying people to have children, how about putting it towards the FTB, or such, to make it easier for families, regardless of working or SAHM

    Don't extend ppl either.

    By adding to the ftb, or similar program, it could still go towards the same demographic, and won't be an incentive for those who have kids for the $.

    I am curious what the purpose is. Is it just to even it out because of the plan to extend ppl?

    PS I would love to be SAHM, but another $5000 won't enable that.
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    Childcare would have to be damn near free for anyone with more than 2 kids and with a minimum wage job.

    I used think you needed a job to be a worthwhile human, because it was drummed into me that if you worked you were worth something. It has taken many many hours of soul searching to be at peace with it. And reading that unless you are working you do not deserve to receive the same amount of benefits from the government, just hurts.

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    I agree that society has little respect for mums who don't work. Mine was one and I remember hearing endless negative comments and stuff all through my upbringing. I just wish the government could make things fairer for everyone. I've worked my whole life (since 15) and am now expecting baby # 1. We don't qualify for baby bonus and I have just discovered that I won't get paid parenting allowance now because I will have been on sick leave for a few months by the time bub arrives due to high blood pressure. Sucks big time.
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