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    Quote Originally Posted by Benji View Post
    Thermo, is FTB part B the one for one income families? I sort of see that one as a SAHMs allowance. I'd like to see that one increased to see less SAHMs being financially abused by their spouse. Not saying this happens in all cases, but it does happen

    I think something also needs to be done about super. With the divorce rate being so bad I worry about what will happen to women in the future after they have sacrificed their super to be a mother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benji View Post
    The child care costs is what a lot of people don't factor in. People say "it's not fair that he has to work while she stays home" (apart from the fact that it's bloody hard work raising children and caring for them all day) but if she has two + children she is actually saving about $600 and then some in child care! How people think that all mums should be 'contributing' just blows my mind

    I think SAHMs should write out a detailed list, work out how much they would spend in child care, how much a cleaner would cost, laundering service, gardener, or nanny and then work out how they do 'nothing' all day.
    WALTHAM, Mass., April 13, 2012 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- With Mother's Day less than a month away, moms are top of mind. This week, Salary.com released its yearly average for what stay-at-home and working mothers would make if they were paid an annual salary for their work.

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    Taking into account overtime and using salary data provided by employers, an average stay-at-home mom's 2012 total salary would be $112,962. A working mom's at-home 2012 salary would be $66,979. A working mom's at-home salary should be combined with her actual work salary in order to determine her yearly compensation.

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    Damn straight, fabulous idea. Hurry up mate I want my ten grand.


    No seriously what a dead set stupid idea, julia Dillard is taking money OUT of the budget here there and everywhere to get australias budget back into surplus and this w@ker wants to hand out 10 grand silly nilly? I suspect the kind of parents we want to continue breeding are the kind who would have kids baby bonus or no baby bonus :/ 5 grand is freaking awesome, hell 1 grand would be more than sufficient for a basic baby needs set up.

    10 grand is ridiculous and I'd rather see that money go to fundings hospitals, doctors, dentists, my small town had 500 babies born the year Ds was born, that kind of money would do wonderful things to support the organisations that will support our children as they grow.

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    And by Dillard I mean Gillard

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    Quote Originally Posted by share a book View Post
    Do people forget what it was like before PPL, before the BB?
    I havent read the whole thread but:
    We are lucky to have these things but they count for sweet FA compared to the increase in house prices and petrol prices, utility prices etc.
    Also the cost of raising children goes up as we have to adhere to more rules eg child car seats - I am going to have to buy a new car to fit in a second seat, 5 years ago I wouldnt have to do that. I am definately not saying car seat laws are a bad thing, but honestly without these subsidies the rate of children born would decrease and thats not what the country needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsdj1234 View Post
    The whole idea of increasing the baby bonus that Barneby Joyce is proposing is to assist SAHM's, in the same way the paid parental leave assists those who have been working.
    Childcare costs don't generally affect SAHM's.

    And everyone recommending that the money being better spent on other things just reinforces that being a SAHM is not respected by society at all.


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    I absolutely respect SAHMs, I am one! But I was one of the ones that said I think the money could be better spent on other things. When I said that, I didn't mean like putting the money into a new casino or something, I actually meant more along the lines of lowering costs of childcare so that it's easier for mothers to go back to paying work if/when they wish to. Giving every working mother 30 hours of free childcare a week for 10 or so weeks until she is settled in the job and has started getting regular pay packets coming in.

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    I would rather see the money used in foreign aid....

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    I think it’s a silly idea. If sahm mums are struggling and need more beyond the baby bonus, hopefully they will get support from other payments. An extra 5K isn’t really going to go that far anyway. I’d much rather they money go toward increasing the aged pension, or a one off bonus to the elderly a lot of which these days can’t even afford their heater or their medications.

    I think the 5k we already receive (or PPL) is pretty good. Being a SAHM mum is a financial sacrifice these days for most families and if you choose to do it for a few years after your child is born, I guess you just have to give up other things until you can return to work. Women do have to take time out to have children and therefore have reduced super, if anything it would be better to increase the PPL or a contribution to super rather than the Baby Bonus. I figure in my situation, we can’t do both. I’ll either stay home for a few years and we’ll have to make do on less money, or I’ll return to work part time. I don’t expect the government to give me more money to stay home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Refresh View Post
    I would rather see the money used in foreign aid....
    I totally agree, people who really NEED it. We're fortunate to live in a country where our basic needs are supplied if we can't/won't supply them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GothChick View Post
    I absolutely respect SAHMs, I am one! But I was one of the ones that said I think the money could be better spent on other things. When I said that, I didn't mean like putting the money into a new casino or something, I actually meant more along the lines of lowering costs of childcare so that it's easier for mothers to go back to paying work if/when they wish to. Giving every working mother 30 hours of free childcare a week for 10 or so weeks until she is settled in the job and has started getting regular pay packets coming in.
    Agree putting the money to lowering child care fees would be a good idea so we have more choice. I'm sure there is mums who though wanting to return to work can't afford the cc so are staying at home.
    Yes the choice is there to work full time, part time or be a sahp however I feel many people actually have little choice between the options


 

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