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    Default Bleeding after D&C and alternative treatments

    Thank you very much Starf1sh, my question is directed to nice women who has the experience and the good will of sharing it, so off course it is directed to you and thanks for your answer, which was very helpful.
    I have also had two D&C's post miscarriage, the first was more than 4 years ago, immediately after the post D&C surgery I bleed for almost 6 days as far as I remember; then less than two years ago, without knowing wether there was any complications due to the previous D&C I, I got pregnant, my baby died one week before his due date; now I got pregnant once again, but due to an incomplete miscarriage at the 5th week, I had another D&C. This time, post D&C surgery, I haven't bled at all, however, I felt like liquid and bubblely like sound on the inside. Very strange, but nobody wants to help me if it is not a heavy bleeding.
    Everything has been really tough, so I really want to prevent any future complication. This time I got angry, because, before the D&C, I asked the doctor to try something different, but he convinced me about the D&C with reasons that, now I understand, were not completely true.
    Anyhow, being that i want to prevent it now, I read what I wrote in my initial question, since I did not bleed this time, I'm very scared, and even though you have explained how to recognize AS, I don't want it too be late if now there's something wrong, I guess there is no option other than to wait for my next periods to see how they are, but at least to feel some comfort, I would like to know if women with AS that could be related to a post D&C surgery, have bled immediately after the surgery or not. Please let me know if you did. There are no studies about it, so in order to figure it out, my only hope is asking people. I know it is very uncertain, but maybe gathering more experiences could help to discover more ways to help women with these problems.
    On the other hand, I read there are, not only, ways of prevention after the D&C surgery, but cure of Asherman’s as well, like the usage of systemic enzymes to prevent scar tissue from forming by moderating inflammatory response. Do you know anything about these enzymes or any other natural way to cure? I found it here, so maybe you know more about it or it would be good for you to know http://natural-fertility-info.com/fe...enzyme-therapy

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    Skaty, I'm so sorry for your losses Did you have any placental complications such as accreta or previa with the pregnancy you carried to term as this can sometimes be an indication of previous scarring?

    I have heard of treatment with enzymes but can't say that I know a lot about it. From what I have read it has mainly been from women in the US using a product called Wobenzym. In fact there was a recent discussion on the Asherman's yahoo group about the possibility it can contribute to liver/gallbladder problems if you already have elevated liver enzymes. I am yet to read a 'success' story through treatment with this alone and even in the U.S women seem to be using this after surgery as an adjunct to the standard treatment which is estrogen therapy, antibiotics and a barrier (balloon, stent, spraygel) to prevent the scarring reforming.

    I would strongly encourage you to join the yahoo group http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Ashermans/ as there is a wealth of info from women around the world using both conventional and alternative treatment for AS, however a hysteroscopy with a doctor specialising in Asherman's is still considered the gold standard treatment for removing adhesions.

    Skaty, if your cycle has been normal up to now I still don't think there is any reason to suspect AS as yet and really monitoring your periods closely following this D&C and perhaps doing some further reading on the topic is the best thing you can do for yourself right now. The earliest you can pick it up is at the first sign of significant changes to your cycle. If you read back a couple of pages you will read Helen's story and she was able to pick it up incredibly quickly after the surgery which caused the adhesion to form over her cervix and her AS has now been successfully treated.

    I had very little bleeding after both of my D&C's. Heavy on the day of surgery and some light bleeding the day after and that was really it. I think the level of bleeding can depend on many factors including how advanced the pregnancy was (mine were both around 8 weeks).

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    Hi girls, i haven't been on bubhub in ages - but wanted to drop by and see how you're all going - starf1sh, i'm SO happy to hear that things are going well with you, and for the rest of the girls in the thread, i hope you're all ok too <3

    AFM - Im 23+2, and while things are going really great for bub, i've been diagnosed with vasa praevia at my 20 week morphology scan.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasa_praevia

    So what this means for me is that i'll be having a c-section at between 35 & 37 weeks - hopefully more towards 37! I'm disappointed to not experience natural childbirth, but this is totally out of my control, so i'm not dwelling on it - and i'm looking at the positives. As long as Backhoe (bub's nickname hehe) is healthy when born, i'll be a happy mama. I need to discuss further with my ob, but i'm guessing that the vasa praevia is possibly linked to my Asherman's diagnosis... The good thing is that it was caught at 20 weeks, and as long as I don't go into early labour, all will be well.
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    Hi KandP,
    Great to hear from you, have been wondering how you are going. Wonderful to hear that little backhoe is thriving and GREAT news that the vasa previa was picked up early and a plan put in place I have heard of it as a issue which can coincide with Asherman's but I think from what I have read it is more associated as a risk of having had a D&C or previous uterine surgery rather than to do with scarring.

    I'm sorry you are disappointed you are facing a C-section when you had planned for a natural delivery (many post AS women find themselves in this situation) but it sounds like the safest way for your bub to be born.

    There is some info about it on the asherman's website and further links: http://www.ashermans.org/information/vasa-previa/
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    I thought I would say hi as I am booked in to see Dr V on the 2nd of May and it feels like an eternity away. I have not had a period since my D&C for a blighted ovum on Dec 28th 2012. This Thursday I have a follow up appointment with the gyno that performed my d&c and recently put me on provera to see if he could bring on AF (no show). I am unsure if I should go. It just seems like such a long wait for Dr V but I know I dont trust the current gyno and I cant really think of anything he could do for me?


    Thanks for listening and I would love to hear from anyone to make the wait a little easier Sending my best wishes to everyone

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    Hi again Peanuts
    It's a hard decision to make going back to see the person managing your care at the time but I guess it depends on what kind of relationship you have with your gyno. I think some people return to inform their surgeon they are seeking specialist treatment. I didn't as I was so fed up with the long term mismanagement of my case by this time but later wrote to my FS and clinic advising of my diagnosis (but that's another story )

    It can feel like an eternity waiting to see Prof V when all you want is an answer. I'm pretty sure I waited a couple of months but it all moved quickly from there. Might even be worth getting yourself on the cancellation list if you can come to Sydney at short notice?

    Glad to see that you made it to the Aussie Asherman's board and have connected with a couple of other women who are in the same situation as you with missing AF's. It is definitely worth going back and reading over the posts on that board as almost 100% of people there were treated by Prof V (many of them travelling from interstate/ overseas) which might also be helpful in answering some of your questions.
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    Hi again
    Update- So I got a cancellation appointment on thursday 28th and was booked in for surgery first thing last tuesday morning as Dr V was concerned about the fact I had blood pooling in my uterus which put me at high risk of infection. He diagnosed me with stage 2 AS. I am so grateful for this being dealt with swiftly. I am still waiting to get a repot on how the surgery went as i didnt see the Dr on the day of the surgery. At the consult he said I would need 2 surgeries so I go back on the 2nd of may for follow up. Just want to get the all clear really.

    Also, there is now an Ashermans Australia closed group on facebook if that appeals to anyone here.

    Thanks for listening and hope you are having a fantastically healthy pregnancy

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    I'm sorry to hear the diagnosis was confirmed Peanuts, but it is great that your date was brought forward. Hoping your 2nd surgery in May will give you the all clear to be back TTC in no time with your uterus in the best possible condition

    I have just hit the 3rd trimester and I feel very fortunate that my pregnancy continues to be complication free. Just for your info Peanuts my OB has told me that while he closely monitors for risk factors in women who have had AS, he generally does not seen any post AS complications in women he has delivered who were treated by Prof V.
    Could be useful to update the thread you started in the pregnancy loss section about your outcome for other women who followed your story of the missing AF


    Keep us posted on how your next surgery goes

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    Hello ladies, I'm hoping someone can help me. For years I thought I may have AS but all FS's have dismissed it. I would like to make an appointment to see Prof V so I phoned the 1300 number I found on Google but it just went to an answering machine and I'm waiting for someone to return my call. Can someone please reply or PM me the best number to use. I'm just at work now and will come back when I have more time. Thanks

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    It can sometimes take a little while for Mere (receptionist) to get back to you and phone doesn't seem to always be attended. Hope you hear from them soon.

    Professor Vancaillie's rooms:
    Phone: 1300 722 206
    Fax: 9283 1158

    Email: info@whria.com.au


    Postal Address: Level 12,
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    http://www.whria.com.au/Home

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