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    Quote Originally Posted by GothChick View Post
    I think some people meant the vouchers would be great for the people who are suspected of neglecting their children, underfeed them and spend their money on cigs and alcohol. Perhaps they are in there asking for money every other week even though the amount they had given was absolutely sufficient for food for the month...and you see them down your local most nights...that kind of thing.

    I think a card with money on it, that is linked back to centrelink and is unique to that individual should be given out to those kind of people, and they have to show picture ID at the checkout and sign.
    I agree. I've been a poor uni student on youth allowance and I would be p!ssed if I had food vouchers seeing as I needed the money for other basics like fuel and clothing (not Gucci of course. We all know how pitiful the allowance is lol) as food was accessible from home. I think vouchers etc could be considered for those who knowingly have abused the system so their children starve

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artful View Post
    Yep, absolutely it is. That post you have repeated was in response to a few posts that insinuated that it was somehow superior to think in this way.
    Ah ok sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemmi View Post
    If a parent is neglecting their children then i support the government's current program of controlling the parents money,

    They Have a system in place already,
    They take money automatically and give cards for certain stores to proven neglectful parents

    This however should not br a blanket approach for all the welfare recipient

    My Ds is well fed, owns more clothes than myself and goes for nothing, I work my budget out perfectly for this.

    We only spend 30-50$ per fortnight on fresh fruit and veg though (thank you local fresh produce market)

    I would be ****ed and alot worse off if forced to shop at one of my larger supermarkets for fresh produce
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    I agree that it shouldnt' be a blanket approach.

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    I dont think people meant it should be for every single person on welfare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GothChick View Post
    I dont think people meant it should be for every single person on welfare.
    I hope so. There was an early post that did mention people of x age deserve less, etc. I guess that's what I was looking at going

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artful View Post
    It sickens me to see children go hungry, dirty and cold. It sickens me that rather than do something to prevent then some people would prefer to sit back and talk about our 'right' to do what we want with our money.

    It has absolutely nothing to do with feeling superior, and everything to do with wanting to prevent children going without because their stupid parents can't organise their way out of a paper bag. I am sick of being polite about this - there are some families who should NOT have children and the children that they do have should be protected to the point that they at least know where there next meal is coming from. They should know that they can have nappies with the kid money their mum or dad is receiving, not another bloody opportunity to watch their parents get falling down drunk before they leave them in the house at two years of age.

    These sorts of protections are NOT for everyone on assistance, but for those who have shown that they are unable to organise their finances so their children can continue to eat and have basic subsistance levels of comfort.

    You want to talk about rights? How about the right of children to food, shelter and clothing.
    While I appreciate the drama of your speech, I'm sorry but there have been a few posters already say that the baby bonus, PPS etc should be cut or halved to people under a certain age, that people on benefits should be the first to get restrictions placed on them. So I'm responding to those posts. I'm sorry if you are 'sick of being polite', but your little rant is not relevant to my post at all. oh and I always find it funny that people assume neglect and abuse is a domain of the poor only. It isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander Beetle View Post
    While I appreciate the drama of your speech, I'm sorry but there have been a few posters already say that the baby bonus, PPS etc should be cut or halved to people under a certain age, that people on benefits should be the first to get restrictions placed on them. So I'm responding to those posts. I'm sorry if you are 'sick of being polite', but your little rant is not relevant to my post at all. oh and I always find it funny that people assume neglect and abuse is a domain of the poor only. It isn't.
    Of course it's not in the domain of the poor only. I have absolutely no answers about what to do about the abused and neglected children where nothing is done because for one reason or another they go under the radar of the various agencies. I wish I did!
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    a lot of children go under the radar because the system does not work.
    I was in a well off family and removed from the family to foster care for 2 years.
    Then when my mum passed away, I was returned to the man who has abused me, as my sole carer.


    Great work DOCS, awesome.

    I was highly neglected with my stepfather dissapearing for weeks on end leaving no money.
    I called DOCS, I called the police ...and nothing.

    So I fully support more money going in to saving children..but I fail to see how vouchers with a photo would have helped us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BerylsMum View Post
    a lot of children go under the radar because the system does not work.
    I was in a well off family and removed from the family to foster care for 2 years.
    Then when my mum passed away, I was returned to the man who has abused me, as my sole carer.


    Great work DOCS, awesome.

    I was highly neglected with my stepfather dissapearing for weeks on end leaving no money.
    I called DOCS, I called the police ...and nothing.

    So I fully support more money going in to saving children..but I fail to see how vouchers with a photo would have helped us?
    It would have meant that at least you got fed most days....a small thing I know, but from someone who went hungry most days, I can say, it means a great deal to some children....to know they were going to get a dinner that night..that with everything they have to worry about in their small little world, going hungry wasn't one of those worries.

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    No it wouldnt have.
    He would be missing for weeks and when he was home, he would never have taken us shopping.
    I was 15 so I didnt drive I used a local shop to buy noodles and milk and bread...
    Would they give the voucher to me a minor? or the man that had loads of cash but was too off on cocaine to bother shopping.


 

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