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    Nope.
    No way, no how.

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    No.

    Also the child should not loose either. Therefore I believe the government should some how step in. I also don't think it right the child being in the care of the person responsible. It's a pretty tough one which somewhat would be different with each case.
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    Well we need to ask ourselves what's best for the child. The family courts are (meant) to be set up in order to put the children first. And as a society we really need to put children first, because if we don't....who will? They're parents? Not always, so it's up to the courts to decide what's best for the child.

    I would hope that the courts would see that having children living with a rapist probably isn't what's best for the child. Thus the onus is then left for the victim to decide what they want to do. Keep the child (thus spending copius amount of money in it's upbringing) or adopting or putting it in care.

    Either way, what's best for the child should be paramount. The child deserves loving supportive parents and it deserves to be supported financially until it can support itself - that's the bulk of it! So if a rapist can't do it, then the victim needs to make that decision. As bad as that is, and as heart wrenching as that is....it's still what it is.

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    Can the rape victim really be considered a parent? While genetically speaking they parent the child, if they don't consent or are unable to consent to the act of conception, how can the be responsible for the child at all? Of course they should have the choice to be responsible, but if they don't, why should this be held against them?

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    Bada that case is... Wow! That poor women! She divorced him because if his abuse. Now she is getting punished because she is more financially stable than he is.
    If a child was conceived from his rape he may have been be granted custodial rights where she probably would have had to pay

    Op - hugs to you

    I don't think any rape victim should have to pay cs. I also think the victim if they want should be given sole custody of the child and the rapist at the most after punishment should only ever have supervised access. But If the victim is raising the child unfortunately they will be proving most of the financial support for the child

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Lovegood View Post
    Can the rape victim really be considered a parent? While genetically speaking they parent the child, if they don't consent or are unable to consent to the act of conception, how can the be responsible for the child at all? Of course they should have the choice to be responsible, but if they don't, why should this be held against them?
    If they make the choice to give up their parental rights and give the baby up for adoption etc...then no, it shouldn't be held against them. But while they haven't done this (giving up child) they are deciding to keep biological parental rights to that child....and that child needs to be supported. The victim DOES have a choice in the end, whatever choice they decide to make will ultimately either keep them responsible or not responsible for the child.

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    I agree with all Luna's posts.

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    The child shouldn't be punished for anyone's crimes. They still need to be fed and clothed and both parents should provide for it. It's unfortunate the way that child came into being (for the victim) but it doesn't have less rights as a result and it also doesn't mean a child from abuse is loved or wanted any less.

    I also disagree with taking that child away from the abuser permanently, it should be looked at case by case by a judge.
    People can do the wrong thing and hurt people but they can also reform and become better with the right help.

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    Thinking about this realistically - majority of victims of rape are women and therefore it'll be the woman who falls pregnant and then chooses to keep/abort/adopt the child as a result of her rape. While men are raped too, a man raping another man will not result in a child, and women raping men is not nearly as common as the reverse... therefore the chances of children being born as a result of a woman raping a man lessens even more.

    I'd imagine that this is pretty unlikely hypothetical... because if a woman falls pregnant to her rapist, then she gets to decide what she wants to do with that baby, and that's keep it, she will be the custodial parent and therefore not paying child support anyway.

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    What if a female rape victim was so traumatised that she got hospitalised on a pychiatric hold, so the childs father took custody of the child. Previously in this thread, spousal rape was mentioned, that would create an environment where this could occur.

    Perhaps a young girl was taken in by a cult, fell pregnant and had her child there. Then a few years later she came to her senses and fled, but was unable to take the child with her.

    Lets take that same cult scenario, but apply more time. Perhaps the child is older (10yo) and also taken in with the doctrines of the cult, so doesn't want to leave.

    Wouldn't the money be better spend funding legal action to gain custody of the child instead of funding the childs current environment.

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