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    Until such time as the government gives extra to those unable to collect child support, both parents need to contribute. It is unfortunate, but as someone who is unable to receive cs, I can tell you my child misses out. No child should be in that position regardless of what the parents went through. I'm from the opposite side, raising the child without financial support. But in saying that, her father is a convicted sex offender so would not have her anyway. Sex offenders are very unlikely to get visitation for more than a few hours/fn supervised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by singlemumma82 View Post
    This is it! End of story! How can you force a victim to pay for something they where forced into doing!
    actually they were NOT forced, he wanted to do it too, he LEGALLY wasn't allowed to, but he's no victim!!! He coulda wore a condom. But didn't. That is not the baby's fault!!

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    Legally wasn't allowed to? No, SHE legally wasn't allowed to. The onus was on her as an adult to not participate in sexual conduct with a child.

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    Where does this leave the baby? I see withholding of child support as punishing the baby. Does the baby deserve that?

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    I would feel much better if child support were paid to the baby and not the custodial parent. (I realise that it wouldn't have any real effect because the custodial parent would necessarily have access to the baby's funds, but it makes it much more tolerable for the payee where there is bad blood between the payer and payee.)

    But child support is not paid to the child, it is paid to the other parent. I can understand where there are many circumstances where there is a rift between the parents and this distinction just makes it worse.

    Also FYI in Australia it is possible for the custodial parent to have to pay child support to the non-custodial parent where there is some level of visitation and the custodial parent has more provable income than the non-custodial parent. I see how this has come about, but it can be so wrong in some circumstances.

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    Did I read someone say he had to pay $25 a fortnight? I hardly think the 'child is being punished' if he/she doesn't receive his/her $12.50 a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by share a book View Post
    Until such time as the government gives extra to those unable to collect child support, both parents need to contribute. It is unfortunate, but as someone who is unable to receive cs, I can tell you my child misses out. No child should be in that position regardless of what the parents went through. I'm from the opposite side, raising the child without financial support. But in saying that, her father is a convicted sex offender so would not have her anyway. Sex offenders are very unlikely to get visitation for more than a few hours/fn supervised.
    I posted this in the other thread but feel it is valid here as well.

    Can you really consider the rape victim a parent? If they did not consent to the act of conception, then they have not consented to any subsequent consequences. While they may be the biological parent of the child, why should they be the parents? If the victim chooses to have a relationship with the child, then that is different, but why should a victim be forced to be responsible for a child when that child is a result of their abuse?

    No reasonable person would judge a woman for terminating a pregnancy that resulted from rape- why would you want to force a man to be responsible for child that is the product of his rape?

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    I really cant get over the double standards in here...by the standards in this thread if a woman came on to BH and said she had been drugged, raped and wished to terminate her pregnancy resulting from the rape, everyone would be supportive, give her virtual hugs, offer to talk if she needs it, and so on.

    However, if a man came on here, and had been raped and the rape resulted in a child and he was expressing his desires to terminate his responsibility to the child, we would be telling him to pay child support, and deal with it.

    How unfair. Just because female on male rape is less common doesn't mean it's not existent and the victims don't deserve equal rights.

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    I agree 100% Luna.

    And I don't see anywhere in the article whether or not he was forced or consented. So I don't seehow people can declare that he wanted to do it. We don't know.

    Further I find it alarming that some people claim that if he enjoyed it, it can't be rape. Baloney. Rape is about consent and power, pure and simple. If there is no consent it is assault. At 15 he is deemed to not be able to consent. He deserves the same legal protections as any female in his position.

    There seem to be an awful lot of assumptions going on here that seem to come from him being male. He must have wanted it, he must have enjoyed it, he doesn't want custody, its his parents pushing for it not him, he knew what he was doing..

    These were the same kind of judgments that used to be levelled at female rape victims and caused a lot of harm. Its a shame male rape victims are treated so disrespectfully.
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    it all comes down to definition...

    if a 16 year old girl came here and said she got pregnant by consensual sex at 15 with her 19 year old boyfriend...no one would be saying to accuse him of rape!


    she was not 29, she didn't drug him, he was willing...this is why people are saying he should be paying child support.

    you can not change the facts and then say we are being hypocrites! i would say exactly the same if the genders were reversed and the facts the same.

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