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    Quote Originally Posted by cindye View Post
    http://www.allergy.org.au/images/sto..._plan_2008.pdf

    Here's the link I mentioned. Down the left is a chart that shows how much cortisone cream you should be using- I was using it very sparingly, but since using the quantities in the chart we've had an improvement and don't need to use it for the whole 10 days before having a break.

    My friend's DD has severe eczema and has been hospitalized several times because it's been so bad. They wet wrap often and use a whole tube of advantan on her body twice a day when they are on the creams. She's a very tiny two year old.

    For us, using the creams generously and breaking from them when DD's skin is completely clear has been great for breaking the cycle.
    Thank you for that, we use to use our quite sparingly because it says on the pack to only use a very thin layer.. It wasn't until we didn't really see a change that we were told to use a bit more.
    I looked at the link and we still aren't using that much, I will start using more, I have noticed when we are to apply it 3x a day by the time we are meant to put the next application on its flaring up again, which would make sense if I'm not using enough.

    Thanks for that!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babymay View Post
    I feel your pain OP. It's a horrid battle. Scan through some past threads in this section, there are lots of suggestions. It can be disheartening though when someone else's miracle cure is another fail for you. My DS suffers and I don't know what the triggers are. He's had allergy testing which showed nothing up, I'm yet to go down the elimination diet path as at present I'm battling other issues (sleep aargh!).

    The only over the counter natural product I've had a little success with is Caroline's Cream.

    Good luck, hopefully she'll outgrow it - most little ones do.
    I have seen Caroline's Cream in the chemist, I never tried it because it had essential oils in it, but I have seen on a few other posts people saying to put teatree oil on the eczema, and other oils too.
    Can you do this?
    I was told by 1 dermatologist not to use essential oils ect as they can burn and irritate.. But since reading trough others I'm seriously thinking of giving it a go!
    That's one type of cream we have not tried yet (ones with essential oils) I have seen others say its quite soothing for child eczema. I will have to get some and give it a try.

    And yes it's extremely hard when you don't know what the triggers are!! I know it sounds really bad, but I was hoping her allergy test would come back with something.. At least then we would known.

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    Hi again Rachell

    Just picking up on what you said re keeping her moistured, this makes a big difference to DS. I apply moisturiser each nappy change plus morning and night. His eczema is noticeably worse if I slack off. I use Cetaphil (also on my face so we share a big tub!).

    It is nice to know you aren't alone

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    I know just how you feel. All 4 of mine have eczema, and my youngest ended up with his head in bandages at about 8 months it got so bad - I went in to his room & he'd scratched so much his head & face were covered in blood. It was like a horror film.

    I know a lot of people don't like using steroids, but honestly, they are the only thing that worked for him. After 6+ years (all of my kids have had it from birth) trying every sort of elimination diet, cream, lotion, wash, etc.... I finally got the right steroid, and now am able to manage the eczema as it flares up. To clear up DS2's I had to smother his whole body in steroid (Advantan cream) twice each day for 4 weeks (the dermatologist recommended using 1 tube per day - bearing in mind he was a small 8 month old at the time!). This completely cleared his eczema. I was told to then try taking a break - but he flared up almost instantly. So then we went back to the daily steroids, but only on flare-ups, not over his whole body. Apparently the less the body has to fight the eczema, the more likely the child is to grow out of it

    So essentially what worked for me was to get it completely cleared with really aggressive steroids - and that included almost a week after visible signs were gone as it can still be infecting deeper layers of skin. Once DS's whole body wasn't affected (which it had been since birth), he seemed to just get odd flare ups which respond well to immediate steroid treatment.

    My older 3 have improved with age, but it is still a constant management thing. We never use bubble bath or soap and all that sort of stuff, but I was told (and my experience seems to ring this true for my children) that when it shows up so early it's a genetic, not allergic issue, so eliminating foods etc have made no difference for us.

    The biggest problem is that everyone is different, and creams etc that work miracles on one child will make another child worse. Sorry to have been so long-winded, but I hope you manage to get on top of your DD's eczema, and with luck she will grow out of it, or at least improve as she grows, and you will become an expert at managing it!

    Good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinebrite View Post
    I have heard a clean, plant based diet, lots of raw foods, chia seeds, smoothies and juices is a cure. I have my children on this diet. We suppliment iron, have them on high dose of probiotics too. Skin conditions start in the gut, they also think its because the liver is having a hard time processing. I'm a firm believer in finding the root of the problem not using a cover up, but it's not for everyone. I use to have chronic asthma but I'm cured through a clean plant based diet, it amazes me that a diet can fix a lung condition...


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    Thank you, I was just going to ask, I was told about 6 months ago that Milk can be a big cause for eczema, I was told to go on Goats Milk formula for her... We did that and seen no improvement, but it seemed to give her gass, constipation and her eczema got more wide spread. so we went back on her hypoallergenic formula which seems to be the best we could find in terms of milk and her tummy problems.

    Any way at 12 moths we tried to introduce cows milk to see how she went, it was only a little and watered down. We did that for 2 days and on the second day her eczema was the worst I think I have seen on her. She wouldn't sleep at all at night and the eczema even reached down to her genitals which has never happened before.
    We took her for another allergy test and it showed up nothing.
    We freaked out and just put her back on the hypoallergenic formula, which is still cows milk based.
    She can't tolerate dairy very well othe wise she will have terrible tummy pains, but allergy tests show nothing? We have tried her on lactose free milk but still the same... She seems OK on her formula now..

    I have been thinking of trying her on either Soy, Rice or Almond milk but have heard mixed reviews about them and don't know where to turn to next.

    Do you have any links about the diet you were talking about?

    Thank you so much for your reply.

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    It'a a horrible, horrible condition that breaks my heart when my daughters flares up. Like your DD my DD was visible only days after birth and was rife by the time she was 2 months old.

    So this is for my daughter when she is really bad but she has outgrown it a fair bit now she is 4.

    We cut out all dairy and acidic fruits.
    I feed her lots and lots of avocado.
    We don't use any bath products at all, ever and I only wash her hair once a week.
    I use a baby balm I found at an olive oil factory in Margaret River. It's the Vasse Olive Oil Soap Factory and they have some wonderful natural products but the baby balm is fantastic.

    Good luck and I hope your DD outgrows it like mine did.

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    My 3 year old is cows milk protien intolerant (includes soy), and she gets spotty skin when she's had dairy or soy. Not as bad as what you and others have experienced but I thought it might be worth mentioning.

    Oddly enough, food additives seem to aggravate her skin too.

    I know I am always mentioning it, but she is such a different kid since we did the failsafe diet. Happier, less/no tummy aches, clear skin, no tantrums. It has helped me too.

    You should google it if you are interested!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4fullstop View Post
    I know just how you feel. All 4 of mine have eczema, and my youngest ended up with his head in bandages at about 8 months it got so bad - I went in to his room & he'd scratched so much his head & face were covered in blood. It was like a horror film.

    I know a lot of people don't like using steroids, but honestly, they are the only thing that worked for him. After 6+ years (all of my kids have had it from birth) trying every sort of elimination diet, cream, lotion, wash, etc.... I finally got the right steroid, and now am able to manage the eczema as it flares up. To clear up DS2's I had to smother his whole body in steroid (Advantan cream) twice each day for 4 weeks (the dermatologist recommended using 1 tube per day - bearing in mind he was a small 8 month old at the time!). This completely cleared his eczema. I was told to then try taking a break - but he flared up almost instantly. So then we went back to the daily steroids, but only on flare-ups, not over his whole body. Apparently the less the body has to fight the eczema, the more likely the child is to grow out of it

    So essentially what worked for me was to get it completely cleared with really aggressive steroids - and that included almost a week after visible signs were gone as it can still be infecting deeper layers of skin. Once DS's whole body wasn't affected (which it had been since birth), he seemed to just get odd flare ups which respond well to immediate steroid treatment.

    My older 3 have improved with age, but it is still a constant management thing. We never use bubble bath or soap and all that sort of stuff, but I was told (and my experience seems to ring this true for my children) that when it shows up so early it's a genetic, not allergic issue, so eliminating foods etc have made no difference for us.

    The biggest problem is that everyone is different, and creams etc that work miracles on one child will make another child worse. Sorry to have been so long-winded, but I hope you manage to get on top of your DD's eczema, and with luck she will grow out of it, or at least improve as she grows, and you will become an expert at managing it!

    Good luck
    Thank you for sharing your story, I often feel bad about using steroids, but like you said.. You kinda have no choice when it's the one thing that's works, and keeps your child out of misery.

    I just thought I would ask, the Advantan cream, do you need a prescription?
    My daughter is on Dermaid 1% and I use to have to go in and get prescriptions for every tube because she was under 2, until my dermatologist told me just to tell the chemist it was for my self and I could just get it over the counter, so we just do that now... But we have never tried a different brand of cream, something I'm willing to do as I have heard Dermaid isn't very good when it comes to steriod creams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetpeamummy View Post
    It'a a horrible, horrible condition that breaks my heart when my daughters flares up. Like your DD my DD was visible only days after birth and was rife by the time she was 2 months old.

    So this is for my daughter when she is really bad but she has outgrown it a fair bit now she is 4.

    We cut out all dairy and acidic fruits.
    I feed her lots and lots of avocado.
    We don't use any bath products at all, ever and I only wash her hair once a week.
    I use a baby balm I found at an olive oil factory in Margaret River. It's the Vasse Olive Oil Soap Factory and they have some wonderful natural products but the baby balm is fantastic.

    Good luck and I hope your DD outgrows it like mine did.
    Thank you for that
    When you cut out all dairy did you give anything to substitute in a bottle? Like rice milk?
    My daughter loves her bottle! She only has 2 a day now (one in the morning and one a night) we have tried weaning her off the bottle altogether but she becomes quite distressed.. And I don't really want to add to her feeling distressed ect.

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    Rachell, you need a prescription for advantan. It's in the PBS so you get multiple tubes (I get 4, my friend gets 8 for her DD who has severe eczema) for $34ish dollars.
    Have you never been prescribed cortisone creams? All the decent strength stuff is prescription only. I'm not surprised you're not getting results with over the counter stuff.


 

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